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Post subject: Trem springs question.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:43 am
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Hello there.

First post here...

I've just bought a MIM Strat after having been 'Strat-less' for about 7 years and have a question Re: string gauge and trem springs.

On my old, main #1 Strat (a '64) I used three springs. This let the bridge-plate rest almost flush with the deck and there were never any problems regarding returning to pitch.

On my new guitar - which only had 3 springs fitted; is this standard practice now? - when set-up as recommended by Fender, the bridge-plate rear is about 1/2" above the deck!

I've stuck in some spare springs (I've had quite a few Strats and used 3 springs in all of them, so had some lying around) and adjusted the claw so now the set-up is almost working properly...

Is my need for all five springs a result of my latterday preference for heavier strings or has something fundamental been designed differently - such as the profile of the underside of the bridge-plate?

I used to string up with .009's but have since converted to .011's.

Hoping for some advice!

P.


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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:40 am
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pippy wrote:
Hello there.

First post here...

I've just bought a MIM Strat after having been 'Strat-less' for about 7 years and have a question Re: string gauge and trem springs.

On my old, main #1 Strat (a '64) I used three springs. This let the bridge-plate rest almost flush with the deck and there were never any problems regarding returning to pitch.

On my new guitar - which only had 3 springs fitted; is this standard practice now? - when set-up as recommended by Fender, the bridge-plate rear is about 1/2" above the deck!

I've stuck in some spare springs (I've had quite a few Strats and used 3 springs in all of them, so had some lying around) and adjusted the claw so now the set-up is almost working properly...

Is my need for all five springs a result of my latterday preference for heavier strings or has something fundamental been designed differently - such as the profile of the underside of the bridge-plate?

I used to string up with .009's but have since converted to .011's.

Hoping for some advice!

P.


Hi,

With heavier gauges is better to use 4 or 5 springs. If you want to use the whammy bar i recomend 4 springs. I prefer to set the bridge-plate rear at 1/8".

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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:47 am
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Tremolo flush to the body or floating is a personal choice. I have all my strats flush. I have three springs holding it down. I use 10 - 48's on mine. As far as tension, you could use just three springs with your guage, you just have to tighten the tremolo claw in the back. I have to say that you may need another spring, but I would try just tightening the tremolo claw.

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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:21 am
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Thanks very much for the replies, folks.

I'll tighten the claw a bit more and see how I get on with that set-up. I already have the 5 springs in place and it's a lot better than it was.

I suspect there might be a little bit of 'string-bind' in the nut-slots as well (with the thicker than stock strings) so they'll need either easing-out or lubrication. Can only help?

I almost never use the trem anyhow and, when I do, I don't need much by way of pitch variation; I really do use it just as a gentle vibrato.

Best wishes,

P.


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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:20 am
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pippy wrote:
Thanks very much for the replies, folks.

I'll tighten the claw a bit more and see how I get on with that set-up. I already have the 5 springs in place and it's a lot better than it was.

I suspect there might be a little bit of 'string-bind' in the nut-slots as well (with the thicker than stock strings) so they'll need either easing-out or lubrication. Can only help?

I almost never use the trem anyhow and, when I do, I don't need much by way of pitch variation; I really do use it just as a gentle vibrato.

Best wishes,

P.


It's not easy to fix the nut for a new string gauge. If you are using 0.11's you should file the slots. Try WD-40 or graphite powder or nut sauce for lubrication but some day you are going to need a luthier to file those nuts ( it's not that expensive ).

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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:14 am
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Thanks, Joaquin.

I'll almost certainly adjust the nut. As you say; It'll have to be done eventually so I might as well do it now. I've re-cut nuts for a couple of my Fenders in the past but if I've lost the knack in the interim then there's a great luthier ten minutes away!

In fact he cut and fitted one for a Gibson I have (the original nut had two slots cut too low) as that is a much more difficult job than the Fender-type of 'slot-in' nut. He did such a great job it looks like it was done by the factory.

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P.


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Post subject: Re: Trem springs question.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:34 am
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pippy wrote:
Thanks, Joaquin.

I'll almost certainly adjust the nut. As you say; It'll have to be done eventually so I might as well do it now. I've re-cut nuts for a couple of my Fenders in the past but if I've lost the knack in the interim then there's a great luthier ten minutes away!

In fact he cut and fitted one for a Gibson I have (the original nut had two slots cut too low) as that is a much more difficult job than the Fender-type of 'slot-in' nut. He did such a great job it looks like it was done by the factory.

Regards.

P.



+1 .

Good luck, enjoy that axe !!


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