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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:30 pm
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I'm 100% positive all the frets are even. He has checked at least 3-4 times. Btw, how thick should i need when shimming? What's a good material to use? Do business cards kill sustain?


I wasn't going to get into this but if you just got new frets and they are buzzing, the odds are overwhelming that something is wrong on the fingerboard end, not the neck/body joint. Or to put it another way, if it didn't do it before the new frets, it still houldn't do it now.


i suspect this problem has been around way before the new frets. The taller frets probably aggravated the situation than the then smaller frets. I remember the G string used to touch somewhere on the last 3 frets but the amount of buzz then was tolerable.


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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:46 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Forget the shim, it's a bad idea that is the wrong solution to the problem that hasn't been diagnosed yet.

No one is saying the frets are uneven.

When a guitar is refretted. Often the crowning proccess will leave the frets feeling rough. Nothing wrong with that, a bit of playing sorts it out. All I'm asking is, are you mistaking rough feeling frets with string buzz.

If it's not happening amplified then it's most probably your technique thats causing the problem. You're being too heavy handed with the strumming hand the most likely culprit.

Or just try raising the action/lowering the pickups.


The new frets feel smooth actually. I could hear it picking lightly near the bridge but if i pick near the neck, the notes are clear. I laid a straight edge on top of the 12th up to the last fret. I can see a wee bit distance somewhere around the 14th. It's telling me the last fret is taller than the preceding frets down to the 12th.


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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:07 am
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pugak_79 wrote:
nikininja wrote:
Forget the shim, it's a bad idea that is the wrong solution to the problem that hasn't been diagnosed yet.

No one is saying the frets are uneven.

When a guitar is refretted. Often the crowning proccess will leave the frets feeling rough. Nothing wrong with that, a bit of playing sorts it out. All I'm asking is, are you mistaking rough feeling frets with string buzz.

If it's not happening amplified then it's most probably your technique thats causing the problem. You're being too heavy handed with the strumming hand the most likely culprit.

Or just try raising the action/lowering the pickups.


The new frets feel smooth actually. I could hear it picking lightly near the bridge but if i pick near the neck, the notes are clear. I laid a straight edge on top of the 12th up to the last fret. I can see a wee bit distance somewhere around the 14th. It's telling me the last fret is taller than the preceding frets down to the 12th.


I rest my case.

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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:07 pm
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He checked and presumably missed the last fret being too high three times?

Or I'd be taking it back and showing them the problem. You need that sorted. A top fretjob should have upper fret drop off, not upper fret ramp up.

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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:26 am
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I think he missed that part on the last 4-5 frets - the "fallaway" as they call it. The neck may be straight when removed but once bolted, the last few frets at the end becomes a tad taller than the rest of them. I wonder if removing the last 5 frets and sanding the fret board off to a 1000ths and replace them all back in could be cumbersome. Or maybe this for only 5 mins: Image


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Post subject: Re: Fret Buzz Near the Body
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:40 am
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Shimming that side of the neck pocket (the headstock end) is a utter nonsense. You may as well just raise the string height at the bridge. It will have the same effect.

The real fix is to take the neck off, then stone down the last fret. Rather than look at all these ways of making a bodge job work.

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