We've all committed similar bone-headed mistakes of one magnitude or another
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and you are quite willing to call my tidying my fender guitar in its supplied fender case after use, a bone-headed mistake?

hmm, strange

doesn't make much sense does it?

if that is my mistake, then god, i better stop trying to take care of my gear, god knows what will happen!

perhaps i should have asked if before strumming my guitar if strumming it might damage the guitar, or before using my whammy ask just in case the springs break and the neck falls off.

yes, im making a joke out of it, however, i think you have to admit i have been a little unlucky here. instead of arrogantly stating "what did you expect"

Your not strat789 by any chance are you?

that's kind of my point though, my older guitars have never - and i mean never shown any kind of rust.

It's kind of like harley having bikes that never have any problems then suddenly you save up and buy a new model and it rusts after a while.

I wouldn't mind if it was the other way around, but since I've not had any kind of problem before, it starts to point toward the possibility the picture being a little bigger and more complex than before.

I feel a little better learning I'm not the only one this has happened to, and I'm still a Fender man through and through, but I might think twice before going for an American Deluxe in the future and just go with the American Standard. As I've had plenty of those and never had a problem - and I've used them outside - which is something I havent done with the Deluxe.

Your not strat789 by any chance are you?
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nope, this is the first time i've been on the forum

i've only ever been in touch with fender for amp schematics before

I'll just go play my rusty guitar now......



Arjay

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It is possible for some airborne dirt particles to rust. So, some of what you are seeing may not actually be the parts of your guitar rusting but the dust sitting on it. I encounter this in my business. This is speculation and doesn't solve the problem which is being caused by excess water vapor. You need to eliminate that either way.
From an outsider, I think both parties here contributed to poor responses. I didn't think that the original post attacked Fender so much that the castle gates needed to get closed.

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After reading your original post, I don't know what could be causing the rust issue besides the guitar being stored somewhere with excessive humidity; whether the case or the room it's stored in being the problem I couldn't tell you. The case itself though shouldn't cause the problem to happen, except indirectly by trapping the moisture present in the room inside of the case.
As was said, the silica packets do expire eventually and you'll want to either dry them out or pick up some fresh packets.
Another thought that came to my mind is that perspiration could also cause the problem. If your hands sweat a lot, that could corrode the unprotected metal surfaces (strings, frets, pole pieces...etc).

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I feel your pain

Sorry Lonetraider, but you so over reacted. Take a deep breath and let it go. Arjay, was just trying to help you out...as were others...Arjay is one of the most helpful guys on here and his wealth of knowledge and experience is without question.

Maybe you should cruze the forums for a while check out what others say before going on the offensive...

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The proper humidity for acoustic guitars is between 45% and 60%. I would imagine it's somewhere about the same for electric guitars. Keeping it in this range keeps the wood humidified to the proper level. Too low humidity causes the wood to dry out, and too high humidity causes the wood to absorb too much moisture as well as causing metal parts to be at more of a risk for corrosion.

Also, you have to take into consideration the climate that you live in. If you live in an area where the air is more salty (near the beach for example), things corrode more than in other areas. You mentioned that your other guitars are not having these problems, so that lead me to believe that maybe you have wetness in your case for some reason or another. Maybe something got spilled in your case (for example), and soaked in past the lining where it did not actually feel wet to the touch. When you close the case up with the guitar in it, that moisture will build up in the case and cause a humidity level high enough to start corroding the metal parts.

If you get a cheap hygrometer and leave it in the case for about a day (this will give the moisture enough time to build up in the case), you will be able to determine if this is the problem (or not). If it is the problem, you can figure out a way to dry the case out. If it is not the problem, at least you eliminate the possability.

My home is humidified in the winter to about 38% to 40% relative humidity and de-humidified in the summer to about 50% relative humidity. I play all three of my guitars almost everyday and after the end of a session I do a quick wipedown of the body and strings before putting them all back in their cases. Other than an occasional light polish of the frets every so often, I have no problems with anything tarnishing or rusting. The standard Fender molded hard case is far from air tight. The only truly airtight cases I am familiar with are Zero transport cases which include rubber seals and pressure vents. I would suspect that you have a whole house humidity problem and should check your HVAC system for proper operation. It may be time for a system tune up.

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Sorry Lonetraider, but you so over reacted.
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your opinion is not reflected by everyone on here

yawn

Ah, I see you left it in the case for a couple of months...If you leave a guitar in the case that long make sure you wipe off and polish everything-it's not so much moisture that causes rust rather it is the electrolytes from the sweat and oils that come off your fingers when playing. The sodium/potassium and other ions combine with the oxygen in the moisture forming hydroxides which result in the oxidation reaction. A couple of months without playing or cleaning would have been long enough for this to occur. Perhaps the rust occurred over the humbucker because it is the pickup which usually gets the most fingerprinting. Just a theory, perhaps you did polish everything before storage but hey, it's just a possible reason for the rust. >_>

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Also, you have to take into consideration the climate that you live in. If you live in an area where the air is more salty (near the beach for example), things corrode more than in other areas.
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im one minute from the beach lol

however, i agree if it was that bad it would be effecting all guitars

i have a mate guitar technician who says he's going to get me some kind of oil, don't know what type he's talking about.

but i'm guessing it will prevent the oxygen and moisture from getting to the metal.

i just tried buffing the pole peices up with a dremel, but it is not coming off and i'm not going to use anything more abbraisive just in case.

Ah, I see you left it in the case for a couple of months...If you leave a guitar in the case that long make sure you wipe off and polish everything-it's not so much moisture that causes rust rather it is the electrolytes from the sweat and oils that come off your fingers when playing. The sodium/potassium and other ions combine with the oxygen in the moisture forming hydroxides which result in the oxidation reaction. A couple of months without playing or cleaning would have been long enough for this to occur. Perhaps the rust occurred over the humbucker because it is the pickup which usually gets the most fingerprinting. Just a theory, perhaps you did polish everything before storage but hey, it's just a possible reason for the rust. >_>

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yeah otherwise i would have seen the daily effect of the rusting and know there is something not good happening. i even detuned the guitar to reduce the pressure on the neck while storage.

i thought it might be my sweat, but that's the strange thing the strings were hardly effected. the part of the neck most in use would get the most moisture, however it was the part that's almost never used that displayed the most discolouration in the strings.

anyway, thanks for your help guys, i'm going to leave my guitar out of its case for now and then try this oil stuff to see if it helps any. I'll buy a humidity meter as they're only a few quid to buy 2.

cheers