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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:53 am
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It's actually darker than in the pics but it gives the Squier neck an upscale look.... :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:05 am
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Well....Some days go better than others..... :roll:

Stratopartster II needed a bit of routing as I discovered that the control cavity is not deep enough for clearance of the 5 way switch and wires... Which meant that the top radius of the switch touched the bottom of the cavity which is painted in conductive paint which when touching the hot lugs of the switch meant shorting out since the cavity is also a ground point.... :roll: :roll:

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Body thickness is at 1-5/8" ( Squier Body ) whereas a MIM or MIA is at 1-3/4" thick.
The cavity was routed at 1-5/16" and I deepened the route to 1-7/16"


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This went well, took all of 15 minutes total. I used a 1" flush trim bit on my small router.

Then hooked up the grounds and hot leads, installed the pick guard temporarily and tested the circuitry...

" #@$#*&%%$? " response censored for inapropriate language ... :lol: :lol:

So in a nut shell.....

(1) ....5 way in Bridge position...Bridge is on, dual coils work but I reversed so that adustable poles coil is off when switch is down ( and only in mid position does the coil switch work)

(2).... Bridge and Mid functions as it should....but same as I have both coils on only and mid

(3)....Mid pup only but actually mid and bridge and now coils work together or separately with coil switch..

(4) mid and neck silent...

(5) Neck silent....

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:47 am
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Yikes! That's close!

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:59 am
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It is but I'm more concerned with internal clearance then minimal thickness but it is a small area and there is more than enough.

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:02 pm
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So this is what my rat's nest of connections looks like and it's better than before but there is much work to be done in tidying it all up..

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:12 pm
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So on this note, i'll go to Stratopartster III.

This was the issue, an uneven sloppy neck pocket due to overspray..

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Used these " Shiny " chisels, Yes I'm aware they are plastic handled but in guitar work they will never be struck with enough force to shatter the handle, in which case I don't even want to see the guitar being bludgeoned... :shock:

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And after careful ( or so I thought ) chipping and cutting and a light smoothing out sanding this was the result.

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And so was this unintended chip of the ol' block..... :wink:

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So now I have this ready to be connected, this one is a direct drop in.

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I will eventually have custom plates made for all the Stratopartsters, the silvery looking screw heads are actually stainless steel and just look like cheap zinc from the lighting.
I did have to countersink deeper the holes for the new stainless steel screws as they are bigger diameter than the normal screws or usual culprits used.

I will add that when tightened down you can hear and feel the increased torque with the inserts so caution is required to not over tighten....

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On to hooking it up....

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:18 pm
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Hi, I am kind of looking this wiring over and first off I noted that something was a little different as far as how the TBXs are wired. You will note the green wire on your TBXs goes from the top center lug (where you have the cap wired) down to the lower left side lug. If you look at the second picture taken from a TBX in a Strat Plus you will see how they should be wired. Maybe you were doing a TBX mod??

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A TBX is wired this way:

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To help you much more I would need to see where your wires are really running and that is a bit hard to do in a picture. One wrong connection can mess everything up. If the push/pull is to split the humbucker that should be an easy application as you take the two middle wires of the humbucker (see your pickup's schematics to know what two colors to use) and then use the push/pull pot to merely ground those two wires, thus cutting off 1/2 the coils on the pickup.

If the 5-way switch is a stock 5-way then us the same Strat wiring schematics but use the lower center lug of the TBX to go where the standard tone controls would go, and then the push/pull in middle of the humbucker wires as mentioned, with a hot wire going to the swicth for the bridge lug and the other wire as a ground. Pretty simply of you see the schematics. like this:

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Or this is kind of what it looks like your tying to do, but using TBXs as tone controls???

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:10 am
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Xhefri, Thank You, I will backtrack all the wiring today and see where I incorrectly connected one or two wires, as far as the TBX's I thought I wired them up correctly according to the Premier magazine's TBX mod 2 part articlee......

I had not considered that the TBX wired according to Fender's schematic or Premier's would make the difference.
Then again wiring for me is the most challenging part. I have an old book on Guitar electronics by Donald Broznac, I think it's time I did some serious reading so I can understand the reasoning instead of looking at a schematic, following the plan ( or so I thought ) and when something is incorrect I'm not equipped to troubleshoot.....

Stay tuned will get back to this.. :?

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:50 am
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Thinking about this last night, if the neck pickup is dead and also in position #2 the neck and middle are dead then I am sure you have something messed up with the neck pickup either grounded wrong or wired wrong. This is really a pretty simple wiring configuration so you should be able to look at that last wiring diagram from SD and figure it out.

I was wondering about the TBX mods. I have never tried one. I always wire them stock like Fender.

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:20 am
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Again thanks...That is where I will back track first, the Neck and Mid pup, but just on reflection if the mid pup works, which it does, then it should be OK, but the Neck is totally silent..
But I know that it is a live pickup since I had it in a mid location and it worked fine just realized that it should be in the neck position since it's the stronger pup of the two singles..

It could be that the wiring fooled me since the hotter neck pup is yellow ( left ) white ( right }
and the weaker mid pup is white ( left ) red ( right ) as the wires come out of the pickup.
So I assumed the + and - were reversed comparing one single pup to the other. But that may not be the case and I will know by switching the Neck pup wiring on the 5 way.

Concerning the TBX tone pots, I hooked them up in exactly the same way as I did on the black Stratopartster I and that guitar was full gas from day one, so that I'm not going to change anything until i have eliminated everything else.....

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:42 am
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Could you post the link to the TBX mods? I would like to understand what this does verses the stock TBX...

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:47 am
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Xhefri wrote:
Could you post the link to the TBX mods? I would like to understand what this does verses the stock TBX...



http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... rt_1.aspx/

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... art_2.aspx

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Post subject: Re: Stratopartster Rebuilds I and II and III
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:06 pm
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I also found that I forgot to jumper the Tone pot for the mid and neck, due to the Bridge being an HB it is going to be in need of its own TBX pot when switched to a single coil and mixed with the mid....But I think I'm going to redo it all as it's not as neat as it should be... :|

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