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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:50 pm
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I'll jump in late on this topic because I joined the forum a short time back. Maybe it will have a new flurry of comments.

I own a Corona 62 reissue. I purchased it new in early 1986 at Santa Monica Music. Body is dated 1985 and the neck date is 1986, made by John Cruz. (his name is stamped on the inside and on the neck. It is a fantastic guitar. The neck is a c profile not two beefy and very unlike today's models.

I have only really had a chance to compare my Corona AVRI with the pre-CBS version on one occasion, when a buddy from San Diego was selling his 67-68 strat and let me try it for a week. It was a brown sunburst. The guitar looked awesome and had aged nicely. When I tried it in the studio I have to say it played poorly and the sound I found to be very thin compared to my Reissue. The pickups were very noisy and week. I can tell you my reissue sounded far better than that guitar ever sounded and played. I should have bought it in hindsight as he only wanted 550$ for it because he needed cash and was a bass player. He sold it to Voltage guitars, and I saw it on the wall a few months later for 2500.00 so I'm sure someone now owns it or is collecting it. But far as a player it stunk! Yes, Vintage sound, but noisy and very thin sounding and not much punch, even through my Marshall half stack which I was using all the time in the 80's. Now use a Deluxe.

I'd say if you find an early Corona you will likely be getting an excellently made guitar crafted by one of the now' master builders. The parts, many of them were crafted in Fullerton and shipped to Carona when the plant closed I was told so any reissue from say 86-88 could be from that stock.
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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:21 am
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This is my experience with these guitars...

I had both an Aug 86 and March 87 reissue Strat which were both amazing guitars. Both played great and sounded awesome! Then I bought a 2001 reissue (a limited edition Sonic blue 62 Beatles edition) which totally blew away the 80s Strats in every way possible. I sold the 80s Strats - don't get me wrong; as I said, they were both great guitars, but the 2001 was in a different league. It really was that much better, even though it is less desirable being relatively new by comparison.

(I had exactly the same experience with the 52 Tele reissue ~ my 2000 year model blew away my mid 80s.)


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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:39 pm
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First and foremost, i dont have any experience with this line of guitar.. however i do know That there is a big difference in Japanese squier pickups and AVRI pickups.

Basically from what I take from this thread, the best you can do is try as many as you can and buy the one that best suits you. Yes, Fullerton AVRI are collectable but not to the same calibre as vintage L series instruments. There is a great debate as to what the term 'vintage' consists of, and of what year one would be able to determine that it has just become 'vintage'.

Does a vintage reissue of a vintage guitar become 'vintage'? For terms of collectibility, these are no more collectible than customshop relic series in my opinion. I think they will hold their own in time however.

Are they also better than the new line of '59 reissue? And will the old '62 reissue become collectible now that it is discontinued?

If you are looking at collectibility and you are considering a strat from the 70's- my take would be to go for one of them instead, as not being a reissue- will have more credibility to a collector. But if you intend on playing- try as many before you buy. Other models you may want to try are unique customshop models, like the FMT set neck Strat, for example. The level of 'lutherie' is going to be significantly higher than an AVRI on any level.


One has to ponder & ask- is the value of the early AVRI models a result of the legend of the small team who assembled these? Do people who have owned more current models agree that the level of quality is just as good as these older models? When people talk of lutherie on fender instruments, we have to keep in mind these are all bolted together, not like PRS or Gibson.. :wink:

Remember to post pictures of your new acquisition when you have the chance, always nice to see pictures of guitars :)

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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:50 pm
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Blertles wrote:
However i do know That there is a big difference in Japanese squier pickups and AVRI pickups.


Hi Blertles: are the Squier mij pups generally considered of lower quality? I love the playability of my JV, but can't help but notice the pups in my CS 57 are generally a whole lot more pleasing. I am considering dropping those pups into the Squier to give it some oomph.


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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:17 pm
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Toronado wrote:
Blertles wrote:
However i do know That there is a big difference in Japanese squier pickups and AVRI pickups.


Hi Blertles: are the Squier mij pups generally considered of lower quality? I love the playability of my JV, but can't help but notice the pups in my CS 57 are generally a whole lot more pleasing. I am considering dropping those pups into the Squier to give it some oomph.


Quite notoriously so. most new MIJ's nowadays have USA texas specials installed, but a known complaint for the MIJ standard series is that the pickups are too bland. Not too sure about the new ones today, but I do know that they are commonly swapped out, even on the earlier MIJ re-issues. Hence the new MIJ's largely come with either USA Texas Specials, or Fender Lace Sensors:

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Not to veer off-topic however, I'm keen to hear the OP's thoughts or if he has purchased a guitar yet.. :)

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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:56 pm
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Blertles wrote:
Quite notoriously so. most new MIJ's nowadays have USA texas specials installed, but a known complaint for the MIJ standard series is that the pickups are too bland. Not too sure about the new ones today, but I do know that they are commonly swapped out, even on the earlier MIJ re-issues. Hence the new MIJ's largely come with either USA Texas Specials, or Fender Lace Sensors:

Not to veer off-topic however, I'm keen to hear the OP's thoughts or if he has purchased a guitar yet.. :)


Thank you for this. I am having a bit of a personal guitar crisis in that my CS sounds amazing, but I favor the playability of the JV. Do you suppose also attributable to my CS sounding better would be superior electronic components?

I would like to swap the pickups from the CS into the JV, but would it be best to also swap the electronics? Or would the JV sound just as good with the CS pickups and JV electronics?

I don't mean to veer off topic, but this very is important to me. Appologies electricboogieman! :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:13 am
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Late getting into this thread however I have bought and sold upwards of 30 or so of the 82 though 88 and what I have found is everything I have owned in the 88 series whether it be 57 or 62 for the most part are no comparison to the earlier versions they are like boat anchors I currently own an 83 as well as a few 86s and 87s and they are all extreme wonderful guitars to play with no setup on my part. as a matter of fact they are all stock with no changes at all nor any required. This shot is of my current lineup with a 70 strat and a custom shop 60 relic in for good measure. Also I have had the earlier JVs and with the exception of the electronics they are also well made guitars and and excellent players. But like all things its up to the player to determine Best to ya 8)
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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
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Toronado wrote:
Blertles wrote:
Quite notoriously so. most new MIJ's nowadays have USA texas specials installed, but a known complaint for the MIJ standard series is that the pickups are too bland. Not too sure about the new ones today, but I do know that they are commonly swapped out, even on the earlier MIJ re-issues. Hence the new MIJ's largely come with either USA Texas Specials, or Fender Lace Sensors:

Not to veer off-topic however, I'm keen to hear the OP's thoughts or if he has purchased a guitar yet.. :)


Thank you for this. I am having a bit of a personal guitar crisis in that my CS sounds amazing, but I favor the playability of the JV. Do you suppose also attributable to my CS sounding better would be superior electronic components?

I would like to swap the pickups from the CS into the JV, but would it be best to also swap the electronics? Or would the JV sound just as good with the CS pickups and JV electronics?

I don't mean to veer off topic, but this very is important to me. Appologies electricboogieman! :mrgreen:


Considering the calibre of a CS instrument, you may find they use top quality components at best, as the customshop wiring is top quality & I would say that the JV will be different. Perhaps, I would look at swapping the guard and see what you get- but that's a personal taste for me, I can't bear the thought of altering a CS instrument like swapping pickups. You may wish to do it however, and that's perfectly fine.

The beauty of a Strat is that you can modify them with ease.. And hey, why not experiment? :wink:

You may need to look at the pot values of the JV also, not sure what they used.. But if you grab some quality pots & capacitors and your handy with a soldering iron, with some research perhaps you can DIY :) if your pickups in the CS are stock (can be purchased as an aftermarket accessory) why not just get some new pickups and leave your CS as it is?

That's something I want to do.. My local music shop charge $100 for a single pickup install, and I refuse to pay that money for such a blatant rip off for a 15min job. After all, I am a bloke & it wouldn't hurt me to learn a bit of basic soldering :)

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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:31 am
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Blertles wrote:
Considering the calibre of a CS instrument, you may find they use top quality components at best, as the customshop wiring is top quality & I would say that the JV will be different. Perhaps, I would look at swapping the guard and see what you get- but that's a personal taste for me, I can't bear the thought of altering a CS instrument like swapping pickups. You may wish to do it however, and that's perfectly fine.

The beauty of a Strat is that you can modify them with ease.. And hey, why not experiment? :wink:

You may need to look at the pot values of the JV also, not sure what they used.. But if you grab some quality pots & capacitors and your handy with a soldering iron, with some research perhaps you can DIY :) if your pickups in the CS are stock (can be purchased as an aftermarket accessory) why not just get some new pickups and leave your CS as it is?

That's something I want to do.. My local music shop charge $100 for a single pickup install, and I refuse to pay that money for such a blatant rip off for a 15min job. After all, I am a bloke & it wouldn't hurt me to learn a bit of basic soldering :)


Thanks Blertles, I really don't trust my handywork with this type of thing. I may just purchase a whole new loaded CS pickguard from Stratosphere. They run at around $300. The 2 position on the my JV is the only one which I use (for some reason it sounds incredible, it just lacks some output). If I drop the middle and bridge pickups into the new 'guard, hopefully the combination will see even more benefit from the updated components. And this way my other CS guitar will go untouched, as I'd like to sell it. The Squier just inspires me to play better.


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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:44 am
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As promised the photo of my AVRI 62: I also have a new 2011 57, and I can't make the same claim about the excellence of the guitar, I have spent a ton of time trying to get it to a state that I enjoy playing it, may sell it... But, my early Corona rocks!

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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:56 am
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Post subject: Re: 82-84 Fullerton Strat 62 ri VS 85-88 Corona VS JV Ri VS
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:52 am
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Nice guitar Blertles, you look like Eric Clapton! :) having fun, that red sure stands out...


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The original Torino Red Strat EC played during the August world tour in 1986 got a 22-fret neck and a 25dB gain boost a couple of months before Eric gave it to cricketer Ian Botham.

Perhaps ZZDoc knows a lot of trivia regarding this particular guitar.


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