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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:11 pm
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I saw somwhere in the past a schematic on how to wire the bridge tone control so that it also works for the middle pickup. Has anybody seen this elswhere?

I am talking about using the 5 way switch so that the second tone control works for both the middle & bridge pickup. It did not discern if the bridge was a humbucker or single pickup so I am not sure if that would make a difference.


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:59 pm
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If I was going to ad the bridge pup so that it can be used with a tone control I would add it to the tone control for the neck pickup.

On each side of the 5 way switch there are 4 lugs. On one side there is an empty lug. If you use a jumper wire from that lug to the lug next to it that will put the bridge on the same tone control as the middle pickup. If you skip one lug so you are going from the empty lug to the 3rd lug you will add the bridge pickup to the neck pickup tone control.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:09 pm
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Here was my problem. I thought I had tone control on my neck & bridge when I started this out. I could be wrong. I have a standard strat HSS.

I brought it to be set up and said make the tone control work for the mid and bridge. When I got it back, in position 3,4,5 both the mid and bridge pickup were on. Sounded weak.

I brought the guitar back in. I get it back the one tone control, controls the neck. The other controls the middle. No tone control on the bridge now. The bridge is screaming loud compared to the other 2 single pickups.

I am allmost positive when I brought it in the first time one tone controlled the neck and the other controlled the bridge humbucker. I could be wrong.

Since it is a humbucker won't it have to be on a 500k pot? Not the neck which should be a 250K pot?


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:14 pm
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I would have to have the guitar here in front of me to see how it is wired.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:48 pm
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It sounds like it's wired pretty standard now. Like:
http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/ ... 00DPg2.pdf

but it may not have come that way.

It's trickey to get what you want because you really don't want a 500k pot for your middle in most cases.
A better scenario in my opintion is to use a 5-way superswich (I love these things) and have one tone control for all posistions except the bridge and have a dedicated 500k tone for the bridge pickup.

-Eddie


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:16 pm
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Eddie,

Thanks for the advice.


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:24 pm
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After looking at the wiring diagram:

Remove from one of the tone pots the white wire leading from the switch to the tone pots. Solder it to other tone pot with the white wire coming from the switch. That will put the middle and neck pickups on the same tone pot.
Replace the other tone pot with a 500k audio taper pot. Reattach the ground wire etc. Then from the switch were the green wire from the bridge pickup attaches, run a wire to the 500k tone pot and attach it to the proper lug. That will give you tone control for the bridge humbucker.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:21 pm
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Yeah, but you will also have the 500k tone control for the bridge and middle position wont you?
Maybe a decent compromise.


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:26 pm
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eddie_bowers wrote:
Yeah, but you will also have the 500k tone control for the bridge and middle position wont you?
Maybe a decent compromise.


No, the wire for the middle pickup was moved to the neck tone pot. The bridge pickup will be all alone on the 500k tone pot.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:36 pm
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Ca Feathers,

On my MIM standard strat, HSS. Am I correct with the folowing statement.

I have not modified the tone pots on the guitar so I have one tone pot that is 250K and the other is a 500K tone pot.

If I am correct, then the mid and neck would be combined on the same tone pot and the humbucker in the bridge is on a 500k all by itself.

If I have two tone pots that are both 250K, then I have to go and get a 500K tone pot to replace one of the tone pots to make this modification?


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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:52 pm
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dkals wrote:
Ca Feathers,

On my MIM standard strat, HSS. Am I correct with the folowing statement.

I have not modified the tone pots on the guitar so I have one tone pot that is 250K and the other is a 500K tone pot.

If I am correct, then the mid and neck would be combined on the same tone pot and the humbucker in the bridge is on a 500k all by itself.

If I have two tone pots that are both 250K, then I have to go and get a 500K tone pot to replace one of the tone pots to make this modification?


That is correct!

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