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Post subject: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:35 pm
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Is there any difference between the neck shape of my 1989 American Strat and the most recent American Deluxe Strats? I'm guessing they are both C shape, but did the C shape change over the years?


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Post subject: Re: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:52 pm
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The C shape has changed in very subtle ways. Thusly they now call it the "modern C shape" or "modern thin C " When exactly the last and final shape came to be I am not sure of, but I believe it was in the late 1970's There are also variations of all the other shapes such as ( boat-fat- fat back- v- and so on) some single year models and custom shopers have distinct back profiles. I would think that if the nut size and radius on your fretboard is the same as the newer guitar it should be very, very close as this also makes a slight difference to the back profile actual size. Hope this helps.


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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:35 pm
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The soft V was Eric Clapton's personal favorite neck shape for many years and still remains to the present day. Jeff Beck favored the fat bat neck for a decade before his preference moved to a thinner C profile in 2001.


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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:33 pm
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dustyd wrote:
Is there any difference between the neck shape of my 1989 American Strat and the most recent American Deluxe Strats? I'm guessing they are both C shape, but did the C shape change over the years?

That guitar has two options: modern "C" which has a heavier, rounded shoulder, and the standard soft-v neck. Both of these options are now compound radius unlike your '89.
The Clapton neck is in a class by itself and not the same carve as the standard V-neck.

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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:14 pm
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I've read many several articles about the famous "Clapton" neck profile. According to these sources, "Clapton wanted to have his signature model with the V-shape neck of his Martin."


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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:23 pm
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I've read many several articles about the famous "Clapton" neck profile. According to these sources, "Clapton wanted to have his signature model with the V-shape neck of his Martin."

............are we talking Fender or Gibson now? Duchossoir's version has it modeled after the old Blackie, in the condition it was in when retired, but people I know who have actually handled that guitar tell me that neck is nothing like the Signature Series turned out. Have not play his Martin, but my Ovation acoustic's neck has that kind of feel.

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:09 am
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dustyd wrote:
Is there any difference between the neck shape of my 1989 American Strat and the most recent American Deluxe Strats? I'm guessing they are both C shape, but did the C shape change over the years?



If there was a way that I could measure my '90 to my '06 then I could tell you. Unfortunately, I don't know how to. Unless someone can show/tell me (bearing in mind I use metric measurements), then I will do it.

Otherwise, based on feel- late eighties to 90's necks seem to be just that tad more slim to feel. For obvious reasons being that that was what was favoured at the time. Im only going by of course, what I have. Perhaps Strat Plus, Plus Deluxe and Ultra necks were slightly different shape to American Std, who knows.

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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:55 am
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chromeface wrote:
The soft V was Eric Clapton's personal favorite neck shape for many years and still remains to the present day. Jeff Beck favored the fat bat neck for a decade before his preference moved to a thinner C profile in 2001.

A hard "V" is the most ergonomic of neck shapes.I have major neck problems(same as Mark Farner)and can attest to this(I use the 1" hard V).This neck shape is the only shape I don't get major neurological shocks with(very painful).The best sounding neck is the Huge 1" U shape(unbelievable tone)but most folks wouldn't sacfrifice playability for tone.JB is back to the huge necks again.He says it slows him down to make his playing more tasteful.I like the way Jeff plays totally with his fingers now.Good players always go back to the roots(good band also).


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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:04 pm
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JB is back to the huge necks again. He says it slows him down to make his playing more tasteful.


Jeff's signature guitar still has the thinner C neck.

Did you really mean that Fender is ready to bring back the "original" JB model?


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Post subject: Re: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:07 pm
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tyguy wrote:
JB is back to the huge necks again. He says it slows him down to make his playing more tasteful.
Jeff's signature guitar still has the thinner C neck. Did you really mean that Fender is ready to bring back the "original" JB model?

I'll never forget the first time I had my hands on that guitar. That one was purple. I couldn't believe the neck carve on it. :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:45 pm
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hi, hope it's ok to revive this thread.

I'm new here and i'd like some advice from you guys--

i'm eyeing a CP 60 strat which i've tried a month ago (which unfortunately is sold out in my local stores and will stay that way for quite some time) but am unsure if i should order it. i just tried a classic series 60s strat as a reference and it felt no where close to CP 60s (at least from what i remember)

i'd just like to know if there are any significant differences between the two and which strat do you think is most similar to the CP 60s in terms of neck shape, feel, size etc.?

thanks for your help in advance!


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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:55 am
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chromeface wrote:
tyguy wrote:
JB is back to the huge necks again. He says it slows him down to make his playing more tasteful.


Jeff's signature guitar still has the thinner C neck.

Did you really mean that Fender is ready to bring back the "original" JB model?

Hi guys: the guitars Jeff actually plays are subtly but significantly different from the production JB signature models. So I was being told just last night by none other than Trevor Wilkinson, a personal friend of Jeff's. The nut is only the most visible of those differences.

We were talking particularly about the differences between the neck carves artists like on their own instruments and the approximations thereof that companies can do on the factory line, which may or may not be close.

Jerry Donahue was another name that came up. Apparently he is especially exacting in his requirements and has moved from one manufacturer to another in search of someone who can truly carve a neck the way he likes it. A glance at Jerry's endorsement history tells a tale.

And why was Trev telling me this? Well, who's guitars is Jerry endorsing right now...?

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:24 am
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I believe it was Vintage Guitar magazine that did a cover story on Beck earlier this year and the variations in his stage instrument were discussed, particularly the pickups, which are NOT by Fender. I also remember Guitar Player doing a feature on him when he released 'Crazy Legs' and one of the interesting aspects of the trem in his guitar was that it was balanced to both sharp and flat a string.
......and "hello' from across the pond..hope all is well. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Strat Neck Shapes
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:25 pm
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Did the 4-bolt '71 necks still have the 60s C shape necks? I've heard the U shape started with the '72 3-bolt neck with bullet truss rod adjustment. Can anyone help me with this?


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