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Post subject: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:53 am
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i've purchased a few cables from the local guitar shop here for my guitar to my amp.

current one is a "monster prolink high performance" ~20ft.

no matter how many times i uncurl it it curls back up in places. you know, like some phone cables do.

what's a good cable that wont do that?


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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:32 am
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I think it has more to do with the way you roll it up.

when you roll it up, you will feel how it wants to turn and just go with it.

don't ever just roll the thing around your arm like I see so many people do. that puts kinks and twists in the cable and will cause what you're describing.

I suppose you could use one of those cables that is pre=kinked like an old time telephone cord, but those have their problems too.

I wish I could explain the process better but when I roll my cables, here's what I do (and there are more than one ways to skin this cat)
grab the cable at one end or the other (close to the jack)
loop it over in about a 10" or so circle (how ever big you want the coil to be)
on the next loop, you will feel how the cable wants to turn.
flip it (turn between your fingers) in the direction it wants to turn.
Keep doing this until you get to the other end,
wrap a strip of velcro around it

I never have problems with kinks when I uncoil these.

My dad was an electrician and this is how he taught me to roll up extention cord and it works on guitar cables too.

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:04 am
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if you want a cable that never curls or knots... get a wireless system :mrgreen:

or make all your cables shorter... like 1m long...

jokes aside... try a different method of storing your cables...

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:54 am
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As said by others, just wrap em up loose. Maybe use a cable tie to keep em looped. Be carefull how you unwrap em too.

Wrapping cable tightly round your arm just stresses the cable and eventually causes it to break.

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:59 am
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jeffnles1 wrote:
I think it has more to do with the way you roll it up.

when you roll it up, you will feel how it wants to turn and just go with it.

don't ever just roll the thing around your arm like I see so many people do. that puts kinks and twists in the cable and will cause what you're describing.

I suppose you could use one of those cables that is pre=kinked like an old time telephone cord, but those have their problems too.


Jeff

Funny you said old time telephone cords :lol: My favorite cables that I use nine out of ten are Vox Vintage Coils.

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:53 am
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cvilleira wrote:
jeffnles1 wrote:
I think it has more to do with the way you roll it up.

when you roll it up, you will feel how it wants to turn and just go with it.

don't ever just roll the thing around your arm like I see so many people do. that puts kinks and twists in the cable and will cause what you're describing.

I suppose you could use one of those cables that is pre=kinked like an old time telephone cord, but those have their problems too.


Jeff

Funny you said old time telephone cords :lol: My favorite cables that I use nine out of ten are Vox Vintage Coils.



ok folks, thanks for the advice.


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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:06 pm
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I have used Road Hog cables for both my instruments and speaker cabinets for years and have found them to be very resistant to kinking.I also use 2 or 3 twist ties around the cables once I have then wound up.

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:52 pm
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Grab the input plug in your left hand and loop your right hand fingers around the cable right next to the plug. Extend your arms straight out at shoulder height. Leave your right arm in place and pull the cable with your left hand. When you pull out about 5 feet let go of the plug and grab the cable next to your right hand. Pull again, repeat until other cable is in right hand. Reverse process with right hand. Do this 5-6 times and the cable should be "straight". Then make a loop of cable about 1 foot in diameter in your left hand. When you make a second loop and if it folds over into an 8 simply twist the cable by rolling it with your finger tips. Do this until cable is all coiled.

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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:41 pm
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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:34 pm
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ah ha!! got it now. yep that helped the ol snake on the floor here to lay out.


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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:48 pm
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I have 3 high quality low noise instrument cables and all seem to have the same issue (hard, stiff, and coils up). Perhaps it's due to the type of core and sheilding. I have a couple of inexpensive cables that are soft and real flexable.
Thanks for the information.


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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:51 pm
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I Have A Couple Of Cords Made By Conquest Sound Co. They Never Tangle Up. The Site Is Still Up But I Couldn't Get In. They Are Both Over 20 Yr's Old. Nice Cords.

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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:29 pm
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Biff725 wrote:
I Have A Couple Of Cords Made By Conquest Sound Co. They Never Tangle Up. The Site Is Still Up But I Couldn't Get In. They Are Both Over 20 Yr's Old. Nice Cords.



i'll check it out, thanks.

for now, i just lay the cords out straight from the living room to kitchen. then at night during practice plug in and they stray straight for my practice. but if i walk around much and have the cable between the strap and guitar they just coil up and i have to unplug, walk it out, redo.

no big deal as i just play/practice at home, but a nuisance in that regard. like TTSC stated, same thing.

i'll get a coupler to the monster premium and a vox 20' coil cord and try it out.


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Post subject: Re: non-tangling cable
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:43 pm
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THE Number One thing to remember when wrapping cords?????.........


Don't hit yourself in the NUTS on that last wrap when the plug comes swinging around like a mini wrecking ball.... Makes you look like this :shock:


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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:24 pm
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i used to make my own with Belden cable and switchcraft ends, but these days I'm finding that it's easier to buy Canare brand cable with Neutrik jacks from Bayou.

Butch is awesome.

http://www.bayoucables.com/

Roll up after use using elbow and shoulder - no kinks - no problems.

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