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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:21 pm
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You could look at it the other way. That Don Lace gained a good bit of notoriety and money from his contract with Fender.
Had anyone heard of him before his stint as a Fender pickup maker?
Before my time so I don't know.

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:34 pm
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Well considering my strong expostulation micros-phonic scintillating foibles of the Vintage Noiseless, it is intricate to analogize the parity to the Lace Sensors.

Niki's expressed similar dissatisfaction with the Vintage Noiseless pickups. From an esthetics point of view, I kind of like the finished look of the covers without the pole pieces coming through, particulary on that black guitar. I had thought to do that on my CS but was afraid I might run into a snag asking for Lace Sensors. At that time the SCN's had just been introduced and it seemed like the simpler path to tread. Can't imagine why the N3's were the next move but I have some personal thoughts in line with something Jeff included in his commentary. :wink:

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:36 pm
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You could look at it the other way. That Don Lace gained a good bit of notoriety and money from his contract with Fender.
Had anyone heard of him before his stint as a Fender pickup maker?
Before my time so I don't know.

Good point and well taken. I think that he never really even had to do the guitar pickup thing though, because he made his big money in high-end electromagnetic switches, relays and high end solenoids used in factories and in production items. The story how he got into pickups is pretty interesting. But to this day AGI (Actodyne General International), the real name for Lace, is still making solenoids, besides pickups. After all a pickup is only a type of solenoid! LOL!

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:49 pm
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Thank You ZZ Doc..
Thank You Xhefri...

On that transparent red MIM (used to be a Deluxe Players) I swapped out the Pups for the SCN's and I really like them but now I'm wondering if perhaps I had been a bit hasty in also deleting the Push/push switch that offered similar combo's as the SI switch.
I may do one more change and that will be to swap one of the Tone pots for a TBX..
We'll see if I made the right choice.

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:51 pm
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I sent to you elsewhere but might as well ask here. Was that red bordered guard purchased or created and 'how"?

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:55 pm
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I hear and understand what you're saying Doc!! Personally I've played nothing like my DG but my comparing has been limited for sure. I've never played a lace based guitar. :wink:

Ask your vendor to let you know if he ever gets one in, including a pre-VN Clapton. But with that baby, the TBX and midboost circuits might tend to color the tone a bit. The Plus, Deluxe Plus and Ultra also have different personalities because the pickups are different in these guitars.

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:08 pm
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Thank You ZZ Doc..
Thank You Xhefri...I may do one more change and that will be to swap one of the Tone pots for a TBX..We'll see if I made the right choice.

Check out Premier Guitar Magazine on line. November and December issues had a feature article on the TBX pot. Now he's dealing with the Deltatone circuit.

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:11 pm
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The B/R/B pickgaurds come from http://www.warmoth.com/ I am trying them into making a template for the Ultra type pickguards but so far they are not listening. Great company to deal with though....

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:27 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
53magnatone wrote:
Thank You ZZ Doc..
Thank You Xhefri...I may do one more change and that will be to swap one of the Tone pots for a TBX..We'll see if I made the right choice.

Check out Premier Guitar Magazine on line. November and December issues had a feature article on the TBX pot. Now he's dealing with the Deltatone circuit.


Indebted once again, i actually printed those scribe scribbles the other day,...Now where did I put them.... :?:

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:08 pm
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It's got me considering the TBX again too.
Think I'll have to dig em out.
Cheers Mr X

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:56 pm
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It's got me considering the TBX again too.Think I'll have to dig em out.
Cheers Mr X

With all that, you recall what we went through a couple of years ago around this time about that pot. We came to learn that the Masterbuilt Clapton guitars do NOT have the TBX but rather a standard tone pot, same as EC's stage guitars. Apparently there's something about the TBX he does not care for. I've been giving to understand that, even with the TBX fully clockwise to a stop, it is not out of the circuit, unlike the Deltatone pot which is.

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:09 pm
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Doc, I don't care for the Deltatone in the Deluxe/Standard wiring scheme.
It doesn't make the bridge/mid position sound like a 5way switch wired vintage guitar does.
I think that is because on 10 both pickups have no tone control impairing them when a vintage wired guitar would always have the lower tone pot on as it's control and the bridge having non.
I think a regular tone control being shared by those two pickups does a better job. Though I am tempted to try the Deltatone as the bridge pickup alone tone control. And have the neck and mid pickups sharing the upper tone control.
I'm also tempted to get inside a TBX and make it deltatone when it's on the 5 setting.

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Post subject: Re: Neck definitions
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:15 pm
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nikininja wrote:
I'm also tempted to get inside a TBX and make it deltatone when it's on the 5 setting.

Have a look at those Premier Guitar articles. That kind of stuff is right in line with your interests. 8)

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:12 am
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Top thread Chaps! 8)

Some seriously good content here.

Cheers!

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:10 pm
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Top thread Chaps! 8) Some seriously good content here.
Cheers!Andy

While I've got you here, is there any chance of you getting over to Musik Messe to give our 'thumbs up' to "The Chan-man" and his band 'Peligro'.

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