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Post subject: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat clone
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:57 pm
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Like i said in another thread, my warmoth strat clone is almost finished, but i want to put out an anicdote. I do repairs, setups, and mod's on the side out of a friends luthier shop. I went in last week to the sound of him yelling obsenities out (not all that unusual), when i turned the corner I saw the culprit; another Mighty Mite build. Now, Im not saying that you cant get good stuff from them, Im saying you're more likely not to. This particular guitar was essentially a Jackson bolt-on shred. Both the body (alder, but with the weight of granite) and neck came from them, and here's how the build went. Had to reset the 6th fret because the neck had a knot in it where the fret sat (not a good thing), the body also had knots in it. The nut space on the neck was cut for a Floyd Rose, but the holes had to be filled, and redrilled because when he went to put the locking nut in, it didnt line up. The same thing happened when he went to put the trem in, holes werent drilled correctly, and they didnt even put he holes in for the claw screws ( I dont know if anyones ever tried to tap holes for one, but if you dont have an angled drill, you'll never get them in because of the angle you have to work with). Now these are things, that time to time, happen with aftermarket bodies/necks, but Ive never seen them on both at the same time except with MM products. Some of these can be forgivable if you want to play devils advocate and say they dont know what you're going to put in the guitar, but what isnt forgivable, is the fact that the neck and body didnt fit together correctly. About 1/5" of wood had to be taken out of the neck pocket for the neck to sit in correctly, and when it did low and behold; the predrilled neck bolt holes didnt line up. I really felt bad for the kid who was paying to get this built. I'm sure he bought the M.M. stuff because it was cheaper, but what he didnt factor in was the additional bench hours he had to pay to get the thing together. So when all was said and done, he paid about the same, if not a little more, than he would have if he got the stuff from Warmoth or Allparts, and he was left with a really expensively built guitar made from substandard materials. I'm sure there are people with Mighty Mite necks and bodies that love them, and thats great, but keep in mind, if you're buying a new flamed/or birds eye maple neck for $85, you get what you pay for. Unfortunately for this kid, he got much less, and its a cying shame.


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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:43 pm
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" Caveat Emptor "

I'm surprised that your friend actually attempted and redrilled and rerouted, I would have called the customer and let him know the bad news, as far as incompatibility and suggest returning the neck to the seller and getting a neck with the correct dimensions to install.

Even though Fender owns Jackson, they are not at all the same animal when body/ neck dimensions are concerned. Understandably so.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:33 am
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you can read about MM product complaints all over the web.
from what ive read and played, they are the wal-mart.....well
K-mart of guitar bodies and necks.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:57 am
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sounds like sour grapes, i've had nothing but excellent products from them


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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:28 am
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Ryan3985 wrote:
sounds like sour grapes, i've had nothing but excellent products from them


Then all the more available for you to buy. I won't touch that crap either.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:20 am
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I have not heard anything great about MM, but from my understanding, there are many different sizes for FR nuts, are you sure the nut wqas the wrong size? I would buy from Warmoth if I was to ever build a guitar :)

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:38 am
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This thread highlights the inherent challenges in assembling a stratopartster from neck and body suppliers.
Compatibility issues demand extra preparation when researching components. Just because all these parts are bolt on/ screw on isn't a guarantee of fit.
Assembling a quality instrument is not as simple as so many are mistakenly led to believe.
Days and often weeks have to be spent researching all the steps otherwise it becomes extremely expensive not to mention wasteful.
I've bought a couple bodies and parts that had been rendered useless but for me ( having the tools needed as a woodworker ) were simple to repair and use.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:42 am
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Ryan3985 wrote:
sounds like sour grapes, i've had nothing but excellent products from them

Wasnt sour grapes for me, it wasnt my guitar, it belonged to a customer that wanted it put together and set up.


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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:52 am
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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:58 am
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its always best to send in your body/neck to the company your getting the other from and let them match things up. you will be suprised at how many will welcome the idea.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:03 am
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way cool jr wrote:
its always best to send in your body/neck to the company your getting the other from and let them match things up. you will be suprised at how many will welcome the idea.


The neck and body both came from Mighty Mite.


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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:04 am
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Why when buying a body or neck would you expect predrilled holes?

In my experience removing wood from a neck pocket is perfectly normal. Atleast that way you have the option to shape that pocket to exactly how you wish. Though 3/16ths is a bit much if it's all on one side of the pocket.

As for drilling neck mounting holes, that's par for the course isn't it? I'd much rather position screws myself and not be limited by someone elses idea of where they should be. As experienced by the OP's mate, rarely will the two match exactly.

Yes I've had to drill plenty of tremclaw mounting holes. Tricky but not impossible.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:08 am
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When you order one for a Floyd Rose, they will predrill the holes if you want them to, the drilled them crooked. I cant answer why the do this or that, I can only report what happend. Yes, drilling the holes for the claw screws is not impossible, just a royal pain.


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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:09 am
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windwalker9649 wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
its always best to send in your body/neck to the company your getting the other from and let them match things up. you will be suprised at how many will welcome the idea.


The neck and body both came from Mighty Mite.



yes i know, that should tell you something. question is and what would really make it sad is if both pieces were bought at the same time/same order.

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Post subject: Re: Advice for those who are planning on building a strat cl
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:13 am
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Removing wood from the pocket is not par for the course. The warmoth fit together fine w/o the need for any woodworking. These things are supposed to be standardized; they use pre-programmed machines to cut everything. the fact that they didnt means whoever is at the assembly line, is just throwing things in and out, thats the only way I can see for the problems


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