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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:02 pm
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Preheat your oven to 350 Degrees and bake for approx 45 min..... Your body should be cured when it reaches an internal temperature of 165

Is it mere coincidence that this post comes from a gentleman naming himself "get ignited"? I suspect that might be the result on a wooden guitar body!

You could always just flambé it with brandy, I suppose... :lol:

Kong, I'm mighty curious to know more about what your auto-body shop guy has to say about nitrocellulose - does he know that is what you are using?

Fender, like modern car manufacturers, use a particular urethane formulation that can be dried very quickly by "baking" with UV, as 53magantone hinted, above. But urethane is not nitro.

I've never heard of UV accelerating nitro, but that doesn't mean anything. Perhaps the body shop fella knows something we don't know. If so - please share! :)

Though personally I'd settle down to the month's wait. With guitar finishing that's kinda... traditional. :D

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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:12 pm
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You could always just flambé it with brandy, I suppose... :lol:

Kong, I'm mighty curious to know more about what your auto-body shop guy has to say about nitrocellulose - does he know that is what you are using?

Fender, like modern car manufacturers, use a particular urethane formulation that can be dried very quickly by "baking" with UV, as 53magantone hinted, above. But urethane is not nitro.

I've never heard of UV accelerating nitro, but that doesn't mean anything. Perhaps the body shop fella knows something we don't know. If so - please share! :)

Though personally I'd settle down to the month's wait. With guitar finishing that's kinda... traditional. :D

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Ceri - I mentioned to my friend that I was using nitro lacquer, but it was New Year's Eve. I don't know if it registered with him if you catch my drift. Not sure of his expertise in this area and it is likely just be limited to current automotive finishes. He might have thought that if it works on one finish, why not another. Either way, we'll be waiting. I did manage another coat of clear this a.m. I now have 3 cans of clear sprayed on and would like to get a 4th on before the long wait.

I would only flambe in Brandy if I was going for a Midnight Wine finish. :D

Or maybe a burnt sienna?

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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:34 pm
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Kong, are you preparing the cans before spraying ?
By this I mean are you heating them up.

" NO...!!! Not in an oven, I heard you in the backrow " :lol:

On a serious note, I usually heat up my paint cans in a pan of hot water, temp is only as hot so
that I can put my fingers in the water for a minute. This results in a much more even and smooth paint exit from the can nozzle.

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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:25 am
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Ceri... I would only flambe in Brandy if I was going for a Midnight Wine finish. :D

Yes - and I believe the flambé treatment is an important step on the road to a Honey Burst finish too. My understanding is that with Aged Cherry Burst it is more usual to deglaze with port wine first.

Walnut and Candy Apple finishes are not done in the pan at all: for those ones you use a steamer. Candy Cola just comes in a bottle and Tangerine is available in the fruit and veg section of any supermarket.

Butterscotch Blonde is my fave. But obviously we all learnt how to make that from our mothers, right? No need for further comment on that one.

I do hope we're clearing up some of culinary mysteries of guitar finishes here... 8)

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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:28 pm
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..... :| It was a joke..... :? I wouldn't bake a clear coat finish on a peice of wood that you want to breathe tone.... I myself use a Nitrocellulose finish from Stew Mac.... takes a little while to cure but it still gets a hard finish after about a day.... and is still playable

Your guitar that you pour yourself into building should take time and patience dont be in a hurry- the results are well worth it


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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:54 am
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..... :| It was a joke..... :?

Don't worry; we got it... :)

The flambé stuff was a joke too. Just to be clear.

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Ceri wrote:
Getignited wrote:
..... :| It was a joke..... :?

Don't worry; we got it... :)

The flambé stuff was a joke too. Just to be clear.

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Oh crap! You guys were kidding. My wife is going to kill me when she sees the kitchen :(

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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:25 am
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Kong wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Getignited wrote:
..... :| It was a joke..... :?

Don't worry; we got it... :)

The flambé stuff was a joke too. Just to be clear.

Oh crap! You guys were kidding. My wife is going to kill me when she sees the kitchen :(

Oh dear - and so early on in your marriage!

Heck, we'd better clear up some other possible misunderstandings too. You know when they say "the band is cooking on gas"...?

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Post subject: Re: Question about "baking" a nitrocellulose finish
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:11 am
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This could put a new slant on the term " A Well Done Rebuild " :lol:

Ok..!! Now.. Where were we, with reality :?: :?:

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