As I said previously ditch the tuner, their in no way accurate for intonation unless you go spending hundreds of pounds.
From the pictures you're showing, theres stacks of room to move the saddles back. Other than that, if those pictures are not new, the trem posts have likely moved (very very possible with Ibanez bodies) or the knife edges are worn.

The one advantage with some of the LowPro trems is that they have replacable knife edges.

Let's be clear, it's certainly not the neck relief causing it. To have neck back or front bow bad enough to affect intonation to any perceivable degree, would render the guitar completely unplayable. Either the strings would be 1" high past the 12th fret or they wouldn't ring on lower frets. It would need to be a very extreme bow that would be plainly visible to even a blind man.

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This is absolutely true. Neck relief ain't it far as the intonation issue is concerned. Still worth checking and getting it right, though.

BTW Big The Cat: I guess you just feel the conversation is better here than on the Ibanez forum, huh? None of us are going to disagree with that!

Cheers - C

We the trem is an Original edge and the knife edges are not replaceable and i know for a fact that the previous owner was a shredder and was HARD on that whammy. i might have to have a look at it after tea.

However, when it had a low gauge of string on it was completely fine! I might just go out and buy some 8s for it for now. Normally i have a tech who would sort it out but he's been put to warehouse duty till after christmas, and even after then he'll be backed up. And the other techs around all have major waiting lists too!

Also yes, the ibanez forums are sadly a little barren of conversation. Although we have got our first build thread up and going!

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And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"

Ooo - link, please!

BTW: you'll never see me talking macho about big string gauges, but I'd just suggest you perhaps go from 10s down to 9s first and see if that does it. 8s really are pretty skinny - though there's some very famous, toneful players that use them, so don't worry if that does turn out to be the way you have to go.

Mind you. For all that I'd be bewildered if that bridge doesn't turn out to have the adjustability to cope with this anyhow. Gosh, I wish I could get my hands on it, just to see...

Good luck - C

Very usuall for the tremposts to move on Ibanez bodies. That would explain the problem. Also it's not always easy to see without removing the trem.

Ask on the Ibanez forums which trems had the replacable knife edges. I know it was one of the mid 90's models.

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Hi Nick: don't know much about Ibanezes - never owned one and can't get my head around their model numbers. Though my brother-in-law has a nice comfy playing one - an SA... something or other. Love that output jack!

Anyhow. Tell me more about this moving trempost issue, if you'd be so kind. What's up with that - soft wood or something? I know we've seen it once or twice on two-point trem Strats as well, but it's harldy a regular issue over here, is it?

More info you can point me at, please?

Cheers - C

http://forum.ibanez.com/default.aspx?g= ... =81750&p=1

Heres some pictures of the Knife edges




As you can see, the knife edges are not removable. and yes, there is supposed to be a curve in one of the sides.
Like in this one:


and heres the trem cavity, although i do have to mension that the trem posts felt a little wobbly when they were in. although the holes without the posts in do not move at all.

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"Oh, it's a windy and sunny day
And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"

You could bring the guitar to your local guitar tech.

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"Oh, it's a windy and sunny day
And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"

Looking at those pictures all I can surmise it that there has either been damage to the neck pocket (easily visible) or you're not intonating the guitar correctly.
Were the previous pictures recent ones of your trem. The pictures of the top specificly?

You're not trying to intonate the guitar with the strings on anywhere near concert pitch are you? That is near impossible on a floyd. You need atleast half inch of pure floppy string sag to move those saddles. Undo the allen bolt at the front of the saddle (near the pickup) and physicaly slide the saddle to position. Takes a lot of patience and practice.
Remember fretted note flat, saddle forwards (towards the nut).
Just making sure were on the same page with the above.

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Hey guys, thanks for the kind comments ive finially sorted it.

I didnt know you could move the screw back a further row Like this:


so that enabled me to move the saddles back enough to cater for the sharpness so its finally in perfect tune

and nikki, thanks for you concern bout the very very loose string, but just before those pictures i had losened the D and G to get a good look at the truss rod without the strings being in the way. I did innotate them at a concert pitch, slackening them, moving back the saddle, then once the saddle was secure i brought the string back up to pitch and tested the tuning at 0 and at 12th, then 24th.


I think the moral of this story is dont get a floyd rose unless you really really like whammy bars. Or have a guy to do it for you.

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"Oh, it's a windy and sunny day
And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"

Ah, that's a moral many here would sympathise with!

Glad you've sorted it. And thank you for all the nice pictures!

Now. Enjoy your guitar!

Cheers - C

Thanks, i will!

This guitar is my everest. i wouldnt even want a guitar made for me compared to this beast.

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"Oh, it's a windy and sunny day
And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"

I'm glad this had a happy ending.

I was going to chime in with this: intonating can be difficult if the pickups are too close to the strings.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

Thanks orville, ive just had to let the springs breathe for a little while before i finally finish setting the action and pickup height.

Thanks again guys!

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"Oh, it's a windy and sunny day
And I can hear the faint sound of distant waves
The past weeks have been going by so fast
It's all the same, the bright sky and shining sun
I have a feeling it's gonna be a fun day"