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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:15 pm
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But wouldn't you still need another switch to make it changable from series to parallel, like you would with a normal switch? Otherwise you'd just get shorts all over the place, like you would wiring onto a normal switch.
Theres only 5 positions, you can't have say positions 2 and 4 doing series and parallel because the same connections are common no matter which of the 4 sets of lugs their on. For instance lug 3 is active on all sets of terminals when the selector is in position 3.

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Surely, having Andy's diagram in front of me would have saved me time as I figured it out solely by hands-on perusal.

When I finally understood the switch's mechanics, my immediate thoughts too were that it was overly 'manual' in terms of its basic function which in turn, yielded it rather ridiculous and certainly redundant. It then dawned on me that its worth lies in the fact that unlike the 'regular' 5 way switch, one can wire the interaction of the four poles and the five positions for combinations (or lack thereof) which prior, would be virtually impossible without a plethora of unsightly mini-switches and/or additional pots. Granted, it isn't going to add 50dB to the circuit, make you play like Hendrix or anything like that and of course, this switch certainly isn't necessary for a lot of applications, yet it's nice to know that such a device is available.

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But wouldn't you still need another switch to make it changable from series to parallel, like you would with a normal switch? Otherwise you'd just get shorts all over the place, like you would wiring onto a normal switch.
Theres only 5 positions, you can't have say positions 2 and 4 doing series and parallel because the same connections are common no matter which of the 4 sets of lugs their on. For instance lug 3 is active on all sets of terminals when the selector is in position 3.

For Series and Parallel connections you have to start using one or two of the common's as a ground. Thats when the Super Switch really starts to get complicated!

It would be really handy to have my diagram templates right now! We'll just have to ogle one of Seymour Duncan's instead. Check out where the bottom two commons are connected.

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Another apprentice question, all three pickups active or neck and bridge, anyone tried these variations or is this known in the trade as a stratbecue

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The easiest way to acheive that as well as all other regular strat positions.

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By far a better solution to my mind. I've had a guitar with that wiring for two and a half years now. That's a lifetime for me.

Just use the tone pot you've already got in place. If you like it get a C taper 250k pot as your blender control.

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Aiy-yi-yi...nope don't understand how the connections on the first question on the first page were done, nor why. :? I'll just sit back and watch. Wait for the epiphany... :)

Don't let me slow you down.

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Martian wrote:
Surely, having Andy's diagram in front of me would have saved me time as I figured it out solely by hands-on perusal.

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I wish I had my diagrams when i started to work out what was going on! :lol:

It took me a stupidly long time before I figured out how they work and the series/parallel stuff still makes my brain hurt.

As we both found out recently there's lots of different ways to wire the SS that achieve the same thing. Its working out the most "efficient" way that keeps me awake at night. :roll:

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Andybighair wrote:
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Surely, having Andy's diagram in front of me would have saved me time as I figured it out solely by hands-on perusal.

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I wish I had my diagrams when i started to work out what was going on! :lol:

It took me a stupidly long time before I figured out how they work and the series/parallel stuff still makes my brain hurt.

As we both found out recently there's lots of different ways to wire the SS that achieve the same thing. Its working out the most "efficient" way that keeps me awake at night. :roll:

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Everything you've said above surely applies/applied to me as well! Wouldn't it be wonderful if all our 'problems' were this pleasant?

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ripitup555 wrote:
Another apprentice question, all three pickups active or neck and bridge, anyone tried these variations or is this known in the trade as a stratbecue

Cheers for the diagrams Andy

Tis a pleasure!

+1 on Nick's post on blend pots. One of my favorite mods that one. Though I'm a switch freak and more often than not, I put a little toggle switch in.

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Martian wrote:
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Surely, having Andy's diagram in front of me would have saved me time as I figured it out solely by hands-on perusal.

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I wish I had my diagrams when i started to work out what was going on! :lol:

It took me a stupidly long time before I figured out how they work and the series/parallel stuff still makes my brain hurt.

As we both found out recently there's lots of different ways to wire the SS that achieve the same thing. Its working out the most "efficient" way that keeps me awake at night. :roll:

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Andy


Everything you've said above surely applies/applied to me as well! Wouldn't it be wonderful if all our 'problems' were this pleasant?

Indeed! :D

Still I do like a challenge. I'm currently working on the wiring for a hybrid Strat. Now that is truly head reckingly complicated yet tremendous fun at the same time. I'm such a geek! :lol:

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[quote="nikininja"]Rip

By far a better solution to my mind. I've had a guitar with that wiring for two and a half years now. That's a lifetime for me.

Cheers Nik all this tech talk around the forum is starting to fall into place ( slowly), this idea seems like a nice little mod to take on without affecting the regular tone options


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By far a better solution to my mind. I've had a guitar with that wiring for two and a half years now. That's a lifetime for me.

Cheers Nik all this tech talk around the forum is starting to fall into place ( slowly), this idea seems like a nice little mod to take on without affecting the regular tone options


Mate if you're anything like me you can read about this stuff till you go crosseyed. I never understand it till I get my hands into it.
That blender pot mod is about the best mod I've ever seen for a strat. It adds two very usable tones, doesn't physically alter the appearance of the guitar. Provides more control than just using a switch (you can choose how much of the neck pickup you want in the mix). In position 1 (bridge pickup) turn the blend pot down and add more of the neck pickup, so you get the tele setting. In position 2 (bridge and mid) do the same to blend the neck pickup in to get all 3 on. In position 3, you can get position 4 sounds too. In position 5 you can set the volume of the neck pickup low for rhythm, then switch to the bridge pickup for a lead tone. Though I prefer the bridge and mid setting because without adjusting the blend pot, you'll still have a bit of the neck pickup in the mix.
Best get the soldering iron out and have at it!

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Best get the soldering iron out and have at it!


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I wonder what happens when

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I wonder what happens when

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I shudder to think! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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