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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:52 pm
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LOL! Ya, the Yellow is the most common misnomer. I have seen a few times the mention of the Surf Green Beck proto-type, but that is so far off from the original story that it is not only rare, but really unplausible. What has happened is people have twisted the true story and come up with this idea that a E4xxxxx Strat Plus' in Graffiti Yellow are a JB proto-type simply due to the color. Since he had asked Fender to make him a `62 Vintage model painted in the same yellow color as the souped-up Ford truck featured in the movie American Graffiti around the same time Fender was getting ready to release the Plus. They offered to do one for him in that color as his signature Strat. He declined and then later took Fender up on the offer for a signature Strat in late 1989-1990. So one can see how the story gets twisted up? Like I mentioned on my website, when Beck did agree, they never produced a Graffiti Yellow Beck Strat! 8)[/quote]

Hi, Thanks for your imput and your story does make sense but that still doesent make sense of the stuff i've stated like the pickup and the push/pull/tbx pot. And by the way, I realy like your site, it's a great page for the strat pluss and if it is or it isen't a prototype i whould be honord if you whould have my guitar on your site for refference.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:45 pm
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stang's swang 66' wrote:
Hi, Thanks for your imput and your story does make sense but that still doesent make sense of the stuff i've stated like the pickup and the push/pull/tbx pot. And by the way, I realy like your site, it's a great page for the strat pluss and if it is or it isen't a prototype i whould be honord if you whould have my guitar on your site for refference.
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Hey Matt, I never read all the rest of this thread till just now. I just read the first post by you and kind of skimmed through the rest. It is funny how stories get started about guitars as people repeat them over the years and people don't remember all the facts. I can guarantee that your guitar is a standard Strat Plus. Fender USA never mixes Gold Laces with a SD Hot Rails pickup. Fender Japan had a few Teles that mixed Laces with a standard Tele bridge pickup, and that is about it. I know the fellow said he owned the guitar 18 years, so that goes back to around 1992. This guitar was made in 1988, so there was 4 years that it was in the hands of someone else. If you took the pickguard off and examine the solder joints, you will see the SD Hot Rails was and after market add on.

I know it can be a let down when someone tell you something that could make a guitar very special and then you find out the story might not really be true. I have owned a lot of E4xxxxx Strat Plus, some that dated right back to mid-1987. A couple were the famous "Graffiti Yellow" ones that people called the Jeff Beck proto-types. I was a pretty lucky guy because I had 3 of them! LOL! And Surf Green, and several other colors.

Your in North Idaho? So am I..... Whereabouts????

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It's still a good price for that color. I've seen ones that color sell for over $1000 on Ebay.


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Xhefri wrote:
stang's swang 66' wrote:
Hi, Thanks for your imput and your story does make sense but that still doesent make sense of the stuff i've stated like the pickup and the push/pull/tbx pot. And by the way, I realy like your site, it's a great page for the strat pluss and if it is or it isen't a prototype i whould be honord if you whould have my guitar on your site for refference.
Thanks,
Matt

Hey Matt, I never read all the rest of this thread till just now. I just read the first post by you and kind of skimmed through the rest. It is funny how stories get started about guitars as people repeat them over the years and people don't remember all the facts. I can guarantee that your guitar is a standard Strat Plus. Fender USA never mixes Gold Laces with a SD Hot Rails pickup. Fender Japan had a few Teles that mixed Laces with a standard Tele bridge pickup, and that is about it. I know the fellow said he owned the guitar 18 years, so that goes back to around 1992. This guitar was made in 1988, so there was 4 years that it was in the hands of someone else. If you took the pickguard off and examine the solder joints, you will see the SD Hot Rails was and after market add on.

I know it can be a let down when someone tell you something that could make a guitar very special and then you find out the story might not really be true. I have owned a lot of E4xxxxx Strat Plus, some that dated right back to mid-1987. A couple were the famous "Graffiti Yellow" ones that people called the Jeff Beck proto-types. I was a pretty lucky guy because I had 3 of them! LOL! And Surf Green, and several other colors.

Your in North Idaho? So am I..... Whereabouts????


I Live in moyie springs.
Also I thnk your right about it not being a prototype, but I think the real way to tell is if the wiring is original, and also the bridge pickup doesent look like a seymour duncan hotrail, hotrails have gaps in the sides but if the guitar is a prototype then the pickup might be a prototype to the sd hotrail,but it looks like a dimarzio fast track 1 or 2 and it turns out they made those in 1991, But the thing that is realy interesting is that the pickup looks like it's made out of wood, I whould say it's the dimarzio but he said it was a sd hotrail and it doesn't have the dimrzio lable on it that's in between the metal plates coming out of it and there's no way the strings could reach the lable through the plates and be worn off and if it would be pressed into the plastic then theres now way it could not be seen, and what else that's weird is the TBX/Push Pull Pot.
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