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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:16 am
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Yes, give it back. But cry and do some drama while doing that. If he is your uncle and he knows you play as well as you took care of it, he will give it to you.
With my wife this always works :lol:


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I tried to stay out of this because I knew I was going to be a bit harsh..... but I wanted to say that I agree 100% with pcheng's post.....

This post is like a train wreck.... I dont want to look but I have to. :roll:

rawnoise, you sound 20 going on 12.... ruin your life? Oh please..... I read the posts over and over and I dont see anywhere that your uncle is giving the 10 year old the guitar any time soon. Am I wrong? It looks to me he has no intention of giving it up maybe till he closes his eyes for good! you mention about asking to buy it, but what would you offer? pennys on the dollar? Ok, so thats out because he doesnt want to sell it...... Good for him!! Just move on.

To be very honest, he shouldnt have loaned the guitar and probably only did because he felt guilty and now you want to keep pushing him to do something he doesnt want to do?

Give it back... smile and say thank you.

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:55 am
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I would run to mexico and change my name for a guitar like that. :lol:
Just kidding mate. Give it back before that strat takes your soul!


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Hey again guys

Well, I don't think my parents have any pressure or responsability on them, they just don't like the fact that I borrowed the guitar and haven't returned it yet, and my uncle didn't give me a return date. Also, I'm the only one in the family who fully realises what the guitar is worth and how good it is. (by the way, we are Portuguese, and around here there's basiially no vintage market, hardly anyone knows what a vintage instrument is, how good they sound, why they are better than new ones, etc. I once told my parents how much I think the guitar is worth, but they didn't believe me because they think the guitar is old therefore no one would be interested in it)

I don't know if he wants to give the guitar to his nephew anytime soon, but I do know he doesn't play electric guitar anymore, only acoustic now, and he probably lent me the guitar because he doesn't play anymore and because he was impressed with my playing.

Even if he wanted to play it, he only has a bass amp, that probably a store clerk cheated him into buying it (he doesn't play bass); he told that he once had a Fender amp that he simply gave it to a school in our town for them to use on the music lessons. I studied the first 9 years of my education in that school and I never saw anyone playing electric guitar there, or an electric guitar amp, so basically yeah he threw a vintage fender amp out the window because he thought it wasn't worth a lot. And probably someone youngster at the school trashed it. He also told me he had a wah pedal, but didn't know where it was. I mentally facepalmed a lot during this conversation :P (btw, he played during the 60's)

I phoned him today and told him my parents want me to return the guitar, and he said "that's a problem between you and your mother". Anyway, I'll be going to his house on saturday to talk to him about the guitar and return it. I'll be keeping in touch

edit: about the case, I have no ideia what happened to it, the first time I saw that guitar it was in that case and had been there for many years.


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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:24 pm
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Rawnoise:

Do me a favor:
Place your hand on the back of your head. Now pull your hand back away from your head about 8 inches. Now quickly apply forward pressure.

THAT'S ME SMACKING YOU IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD!!

Your parents feel all the pressure and responsibility of EVERYTHING you do. That's what being a parent is all about. You are starting to sound like a sniffly kid. They may not fully understand the cost and value of the Strat, but they know that this hunk of wood is something he has owned for a very long time. It's NOT the worth that makes this important; IT'S YOUR ACTIONS that your parents care about! (Sorry for yelling)

Everything else you have written are just justifications of why YOU should have it. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU!!!!

I'm glad that you are doing the right thing, but I'm afraid it's for the wrong reasons. It's more than just doing what your mother tells you to do (although that's important). It's more about the fact that you don't deserve this guitar no matter how much you love it.

You cannot claim ownership of anything just because you like it! You work for it, or you inherit it. And I'm sure in Portual (just like here) that it's not polite to ask for something you do not deserve.

(Sorry to sound harsh; I'm sure you're a great kid and I'm sure in about 20 years, if you remember this, you will know what I'm talking about).


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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:31 pm
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É meu colega, pelo que seu tio lhe disse ao telefone, sugiro que devolva a guitarra mesmo. Se no final das contas você não herdar este instrumento maravilhoso, tenha certeza que um dia você vai poder comprar uma Strato ainda melhor !
Quando eu era jovem e tinha uma Squier também ficava babando pelas guitarras dos meus primos. Hoje com 28 anos finalmente consegui comprar minha FSR American Standard.
Minha dica de motivação para você é a seguinte: Eu tenho uma Highway One 2009 e é uma excelente guitarra. Uso ela para praticar apenas e a Standard para tocar por aí. Use sua Highway como se fosse única, porque na verdade ela é. Eu perdi muitos anos da minha vida apenas na procura por equipamentos, amps, pedais, captadores e guitarras obviamente. Tempo que eu me arrependo de nao ter utilizado para aprender e tirar o máximo de meu aprendizado com minha antiga Squier. Hoje sim, consegui ter um equipamento decente e de que eu gosto, porém estou tendo que voltar no tempo e aprender/reaprender tudo que deixe para trás na juventude.
Pegue sua Highway e estude, treine se torne cada vez um melhor guitarrista, lhe garanto que se um dia essa Stratocaster não for sua, você terá uma ainda melhor!

Seu amigo do Brazil!

Sorry about the language guys, just wanted to talk in his home language.

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Olá irmão :wink: Eu vou devolver a guitarra, mas enfim, tenho a sensação que nunca vais vou conseguir ter algo igual, as guitarras vintage são muito caras e raras, e mesmo que comprasse uma, e era provavel que se comprasse nao tivesse oportunidade de a experimentar, não teria a certeza se é um instrumento tão bom como este...

Sorry for the portuguese guys, but it's nice to talk in our language on the internet sometimes!

Pcheng,

You don't have to be sorry, it's your opinion and you're probably right saying I don't deserve it. I don't feel like I deserve it, I know it's not mine, and I don't think I should have it (I described the above to try to give you the picture of the situtation, that no one really cares about this instrument etc.)

I'm just sad to know a great instrument is going to go to the trash can, and I can't do anything about it.


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I'm also portuguese and my parents always told me: 'Be happy for what you have and not sad for what you don't have. '
I mean you're 20 and you played on a real relic. There are people that are twice as old as you and never had the chance to play on such an instrument.
You have your whole life to spare and when you are ready, I'm sure you will be able to purchase one.
You have no right to claim what isn't yours.


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Woah guys, theres some harsh words being thrown at him here! He's not being immature, he's just fighting for something he loves!

I thought i once came into position of an expensive guitar but it was a fake sadly.

Even then i was thinking of just selling it simply for money for uni, but i did plan on buying a replacement.

So heres my advice, give the guitar back, maybe you wont get it back but you know what, track down a Custom shop fender with the exact same specs in memory of it.

The custom shop stuff is amazingly similar to the vintage stuff, and then some because of how worn it is. I know a guy who spent years on trying to get a pre 65 strat and when he finally got one, within a month the electrics went in it.

My point is, give it him back, then find something like it or even better. from the sounds of it you've only played two guitars and some of the vintage guitars ive played have been terrible! (So have the highways...)

try some modern americans or some custom shops, hell try out a few Ibanez or some tokai's and you'll be pleasantly surprised

I hope your dilemma is pleasantly resolved.

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And to think, 2 years earlier would have been a pre-CBS.


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Big The Cat wrote:
Woah guys, theres some harsh words being thrown at him here! He's not being immature, he's just fighting for something he loves!


I will appologize again. I do not mean to to insult anyone by what I said. However, I have not written anything I would not have said to either of my own sons. (And yes, I have been known to give each of my boys a quick smack in the back of the head...... is that the HHS car I see pulling up to the house???) And I am completely glad to see that rawnoise is doing the right thing. It shows he has a lot of respect for himself and family.

Look; anybody who has survived their teenage years completely understands what he is going through; myself included. I am in the process of raising my two sons and preparing them for adulthood. They are both immature and selfish; and I understand that. They are suppose to be at that age. It is all the process of growing up. It is the process of this leap from 'me' to 'us' attitude that defines maturity. Especially when they become fathers.

Everybody see's something different when they read a thread like this. Some people may see a young lad passionate about a guitar. I see a young lad not understanding the intentions of his parents. Now, I don't know rawnoise or his parents. But being a parent, I can explain how we (as parents) do feel responsible for everything their children do. I have been on both sides of those heated dinner discussions. And in my teenage years, I knew without a doubt, that my father just didn't understand (just as my boys insist that I just don't understand). But, now that my father is long gone playing in the BIG gig, I get it. It took me a while, but now I get it.

I hope the best for rawnoise, and I quite certain he/she will get it too.

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:23 pm
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Ok, who else is thinking the same thing as I?

The op said that no one really has an appraisal value on
vintage instruments, hmmm Portugal should be nice around
this time. :wink:

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bluesstrattone wrote:
Ok, who else is thinking the same thing as I?

The op said that no one really has an appraisal value on
vintage instruments, hmmm Portugal should be nice around
this time. :wink:


Hahaha, Thar be gold in them hills!

But yeah, i understand that most family men would look at these posts and go, "Give it back! Dont be so stupid!" But to people like him who are our age its not uncommon to run away with stuff.

I mean hell, america was like the country that invented the phrase, "Run off and join the circus"

Personally i wouldnt, but im also a massive wuss. Im also not condoning this but im just saying, let him make up his own mind, you know? There are too many people tell people what to do nowadays...

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Rapaz é pena que tenhas que devolver a guitarra mas vou reforcar o que ja foi dito... dá-te por feliz que tenhas tido a oportunidade e agradece ao teu tio...
quem me dera ter tido uma hipotese dessas mas tenho a vida inteira pela frente e pode ser que algum dia.... :roll:
Ergue a cabeça segue em frente e outra oprtunidade dessas vai surgir ;)

estamos aqui para nos apoiar e isso e é bom ver portugueses por aqui :D

Fica bem rapaz :)

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(sorry guy it's not everyday you see a fellow portugese on the internet and specially on fender community :lol:, it's really good knowing that there are more portuguese fellas out there who love fender as well :wink:)


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Eu amo minhas Fenders também!

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