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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:33 pm
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I'm really confused.

Your uncle wants to give the guitar to his 10 year old nephew. And you're saying his 10 year old nephew is his daughter's son? Isn't that his grandson?

If you mean your grandfather's daughter's son, then I'm just curious, what would give him precedence over you to receive the guitar? Aren't you both his nephews?


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rabmag wrote:
I'm really confused.

Your uncle wants to give the guitar to his 10 year old nephew. And you're saying his 10 year old nephew is his daughter's son? Isn't that his grandson?

If you mean your grandfather's daughter's son, then I'm just curious, what would give him precedence over you to receive the guitar? Aren't you both his nephews?


Omg, i've been confusing nephew with grandson all along, yes the boy is his grandson, its me who is his nephew, I'm very sorry, English isn't my first language and I sometimes get confused....


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rawnoise wrote:
rabmag wrote:
I'm really confused.

Your uncle wants to give the guitar to his 10 year old nephew. And you're saying his 10 year old nephew is his daughter's son? Isn't that his grandson?

If you mean your grandfather's daughter's son, then I'm just curious, what would give him precedence over you to receive the guitar? Aren't you both his nephews?


Omg, i've been confusing nephew with grandson all along, yes the boy is his grandson, its me who is his nephew, I'm very sorry, English isn't my first language and I sometimes get confused....


That's really tough...it now makes sense why he is so insistent on giving the guitar to your cousin.

I've never even seen a 67 strat much less touched one. May I ask...does it have the C shaped neck or the thicker shaped neck? By any chance can you post a closer picture of the headstock?


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Wouldn't it just be easier, and more fair, to have the guitar appraised and offer to buy it from your uncle? I realize you're a student, but maybe you can work out a payment plan. You can even draw up a hand written agreement on the duration and amount of the payments. This would be as good as any document drawn up at a bank.


You might have missed an earlier post of mine, I'll repost here:

A while back I talked with him on the phone about the possibility of buying it from him, and he said that he didn't have nephews, he'd *give* me guitar, but because he has nephews and one of them wants to learn guitar, he's giving it to him (though I think I heard the kid quit the guitar classes to focus on school lol), so I think buying is out of the picture, though I might suggest him that again, when he realizes the guitar's value...


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I've never even seen a 67 strat much less touched one. May I ask...does it have the C shaped neck or the thicker shaped neck? By any chance can you post a closer picture of the headstock?


The neck is really thin and confortable, so I think it might be C shape; I notice a HUGE difference between this neck and the HW1's.

Here the picture, I hope the upload works: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7418/l1080498.jpg

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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:37 pm
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...Excuse me for butting in, but after all, YOU posted this here.
...that said, I feel that your Uncle should give YOU the guitar, and give the wee-ones a smaller, cheaper one,..if he feels that he should give them anything.. like someone else said,.. that vintage guitar is going to be trashed in no time,..just judging by some 10 year olds that I know..they'll probably bolt some wheels to it and create some sort of hybrid skateboard or worse,...a snowboard.

I bought my nephew a small scale Martin acoustic guitar and a Squier Strat... do you think the little choad played it?.... yeah for about a month then they went to the "toy morgue" in his basement... never to be seen again... his father(my brother) insisted that I get it for him and that he'd pay for his lessons...which lasted all of 2 weeks.. so in closing,.. offer to buy it from Uncle at a decent price if you have to... and I'm sure Unc knows its worth...
but advise him that the guitar WILL go to the dogs if he gives it to a kid that young.
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Rawnoise, Now that I've seen the guitar, I realize why you are having such a hard time letting go. but still It's just a guitar, I would love to own one myself but I personally cannot afford to pay $9,000. for one. Still you had a great run with that baby, let it go and you will have a lot less to worry about, Except that constant condition of GAS we all have who don't own a vintage instrument. Just get a friend to take some Pics of you jamming on it before you give it back. 8)


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I think the best thing to do is talk your uncle into giving me the guitar and that would settle all the problems....... :twisted:

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I want to see you keep this guitar.

Do what the others are telling you. Talk to your uncle, tell him that the guitar means a great deal to you. Tell him that you would take care of it better than anybody else would. Tell him that you would try to find a way to pay for it. Tell him you would do whatever it would take to keep it. Work all of this out with him.

Understand, though, you are dealing with a delicate issue. Tearing your family apart over a guitar isn't worth it.

If I had a nephew or great nephew or son or whatever who could actually play and wanted my '67 RI someday and I was no longer playing, I'd give him my guitar if it meant that much to him.

Judging from the photos, your uncle did his best to take care of his Strat. He didn't trash it and how it plays and how it's impacted you is a reflection of that.

That Strat is a keeper.

You're a player and that old guitar couldn't ask for a better second owner.

I don't want to see some prepubescent kid get his hands on it, either. You don't buy someone a Ferrari Daytona for their first car, so you surely don't give a nice old guitar like that to someone as a first instrument.

Just promise your uncle and everyone here you would never think twice about selling it (especially to someone who wouldn't play it and really appreciate it). I don't care if you get into a spot where you're living out of a cardboard box and eating from a soup kitchen, that Strat better stay with you.

If things don't work out, then buy a MIJ '67 like mine. It may not have the sentimental value, but it plays virtually the same as your uncle's guitar (the neck profile is exactly the same). Mine has CS 69s (gray bobbins; constructed exactly the same as the original pickups Fender was using during the late '60s) so it can really nail the tone too.

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Sounds like you screwed up by getting attached to something that wasn't yours. Get over it fella.

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He just got a taste, there is the problem. Look but dont touch, touch but dont taste, taste but dont swallow...


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He just got a taste, there is the problem. Look but dont touch, touch but dont taste, taste but dont swallow...


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The majority here seems to think you should give it back. I'm sorry, I can't disagree with them. Someone mentioned the younger nephews. In my opinion, if you're honest with your uncle and let him know what he has he may not let the little ones mess with it at all and he may eventually will it to you.

Dude, my stepdad is over 80 years old. He has this 1930's Gibson that I would kill to have but, unfortunately, he has 4 of his own kids and I'm afraid he'll be willing it to one of them. Although none of those selfish $@! clowns deserves it. He had heart problems a few years back and we really thought that was going to be it. None of his kids even bothered to drive the 20 miles to the hospital to see him and here I was, in Japan, calling to check on him every single day....with no thoughts of the Gibby in mind.

In my opinion, he should will that bad boy to me I've been more of a son to him than his own. But, I'm not going to hold my breath. I just hope I can get back to the US one more time and have a chance to play it again.

Give the guitar back, man. It's just a plank of wood and it's not worth having problems in the family.
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I have to agree with a lot of the other posters on this thread. Give it back. Enjoy the fact that you got to play such a great instrument. The saying "it just wasn't meant to be" can be said for this story.

If it was meant to happen then everyone would be saying you should have that guitar. It has a legacy with someone else...thats just how it goes man just gotta deal with it...be greatful that you got to even play a guitar like that most of the people on here would never even see nor play a guitar like that...be thankful for the experience as it is...

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I wonder what happened to the original case? That black plush lined one definately is NOT period correct.

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OK, I'm a little late to the party, but I have two teenage boys (a vintage Strat, and a pile of other guitars and equipment).

I must agree with your parents.

I would not feel comfortable if my sister decided to 'lend' one of my son's her souped up Honda S2000.

It's not that I don't trust my sons, but how do I make the call to my sister to tell her that the car is now a wadded up hunk of crap in my driveway after an accident (regardless of whose fault it is). Do I just hand her a fist of cash (that neither my sons or I have) and say 'OK, we're even'? I would feel more nervous about the fact that my boys are driving in a borrowed valuable car, than the fact that they could get in a car accident and get themselves killed.

Even if you understand the awesome responsibilty of borrowing such a valuable instrument, you obviously don't understand the even greater responsiblity and pressure it places on your parents. The fact that your parents 'shouted at you during dinner' to return the guitar tells me that they are caring responsible people who want to do what's right.

The fact that you can't pop the scratch to buy this guitar tells me that you haven't worked your $@! off enough to deserve it. This may sound rough, but it's true. There is only two ways to get things 1) you work for it 2) you inherit it. Since you are not in the inheritance line, you do not deserve it, yet.

Give it back.
Shut up about it.
Cherish the thought of having had the privledge of playing it.
Get yourself a kick $@! education
Get a kick $@! job

And earn enough to buy your own Vintage Strat.

It's your uncle's Strat. He can chop it up and make toothpicks out of it if he wants to.

By the way, I'm going through pretty much the same thing with my 14yr old son. He's become quite attached to my Ash DLX that I may sell to fund a new Rick bass. Without crushing him, he needs to understand that he has no claim to it, and he will only appreciate it when he earns his own. It is a lesson as difficult to teach as it is to learn.


Also, how do you know that your Hwy1 won't be the coveted holy grail 50 years from now?


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