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Post subject: My Dave Murray "Aces High" Supermarine Strat
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:57 pm
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As some of you know, I've been working on a little project. I've been watching the build threads here with great delight. Now things are nearing a final phase for me I thought I'd share. Some of you have been at me to start a thread here for months and I've refrained because the timing hasn't been right. Well its time. And, all good things come to those who wait, right Nik? :wink:

I would like to thank Ceri, Nikininja, and Mr. Martian to name a few who have encouraged and inspired me and have tried to answer my many stupid questions!

I apologize to those of you who frequent other forums and have possibly seen this elsewhere, I don't mean to plaster the 'Net with it, but I think its rather special - albeit from a personal perspective - but have been asked time and again to post a thread here, so here we are.

This thread will have a LOT of pictures so ye are forwarned!

Greetings boys and girls!

First off, it must be said I LOVE Iron Maiden. Best metal band ever in my very humble opinon. Second, I am a avid history buff, especially WWII in general and in particular - the Battle of Britain.

What do these things have in common you ask? For one, a timeless classic by Iron Maiden, called "Aces High". From arguably one of 'Maiden's best albums: 'Powerslave' released in 1984 - an auspicious year for many hard rock and heavy metal albums.

Almost a year ago, I wanted to buy myself a new guitar, and of course, loving Iron Maiden - I wanted, like so many aspiring guitarists - to wield the weapon of my favorite hero's, namely: Dave Murray and Adrian Smith. Adrian has a signature guitar made by Jackson. I already own a Jackson, and its one of my favorite guitars (not that I totally would mind owning Adrian's mind you!), but I don't own a stratocaster due to my mentally scarred 15-year old psyche.

Now, a little about me: I hate strats, rather I should say Fender strats; not the design itself. "WHY?" you ask? My first guitar I ever had was a strat. At the ripe old age of 15 (MANY moons ago boys and girls), I always looked longingly at Jackson's, ESP's, Kramer's and Ibanez's at my local music store. Guitars with a real, locking tremolo, no pickguard, and pickups other than single coils. In the heyday of 80's metal I cursed my strat every time I touched the trem and had to re-tune it. I hated the color (baby blue), NOT a color for a 15 year old and a proper metal guitar, and it just felt cheap (it was a Squire clone, and being 15 had no concept of the words "proper setup"). So after giving up the guitar for a few years, a couple of years ago I got the bug again and now I own both a Jackson and an ESP.

Anyways, fast forward to the present and my guitar buying dilemma. I wanted something new, something bada*s. As I said, I thought about Adrian's Jackson, but because I already owned such a beautiful specimen (a Dinky DKMG), I decided to check out Dave's signature Fender strat.

I didn't know what to expect, but once I saw pictures of Dave's signature Fender, it just didn't seem right to me. I know its a faithful reproduction of Daves 'Kossoff' strat, but it didn't even have a Floyd Rose on it - and thought that was a damn shame. I've done a LOT of research for this project and can't recall seeing any pics of Daves axe's without a locking trem on them (I'm sure he has them in his vast collection, but I've never seem em, and have never seen him in concert without a Floyd equipped strat). Another thing that bothered me about both Dave and Adrians signature guitars was the paint. Or should I say lack thereof? Flashy paintjobs mean nothing, I just figured that with all of the truely epic Iron Maiden artwork over the years Eddie would somehow, somewhere make an appearance on someone's guitar or bass.

Right then and there, staring at Fender's website - I determined I would make a guitar worthy of Dave Murray and Eddie the 'Ed. I would make a stratocaster that was cool. A stratocaster I would be proud to own, a stratocaster to rule them all.

This is installment One, and I hope you enjoy my project! The intro has been long enough, and I could blather on - but I'll just shut up now and post some pictures. :D

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The following was waiting for me when I walked in the door today - its been a while, and at times I admit I thought I'd never see it again. Well after all is said and done - I have to say the cliche'd: "it was worth the wait" holds true... I've had many pictures sent to me over the painting process, and none of them held a candle to having the real thing in my hands. There's nothing like seeing the design I made on paper with colored pencils months ago now in real form. The following are a few pics I took. They're taken in my basement with no windows and a few flourecent lights at night - needless to say some of the pics are fuzzy. I tried a bunch of camera settings as all the flash settings washed out the colors, so trying to capture its true color, I turned off the flash. While some are a tad blurry - I tried to show how much darker things really are. In addition I and my friend have handled it a bit by now so there are fingerprints all over it (I quickly buffed out as many I could with my 100% cotton sleeve). Needless to say it is pure sex to handle and the finish and clear coats are absolutley IMMACULATE. There are absolutley no bumps or flaws period. It feels like holding one beautifully crafted piece of flawless glass. So, any imperfections you might think you see in the finish are a result of my terrible camera skills, poor lighting, and fingerprints. Oh, the sharp-eyed will notice some polishing compound in the recesses and corners, that will all be cleaned up in due time...

My original concept design (actually, this is revision five or so):
Image

This is how the body (Alder, 2-piece) left my house after it was delivered from Warmoth...
Image

Eight months later... thats right eight months.
Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

I really love the exhaust pipe, its very very subtle. Being near the top it contends with the black burst from the back, only in the flash pics (of which, this is not one, heh) does it look crisp and too metallic. Trust me, its not. I told my painter I wanted it to look like the discoloring found on motorcycle pipes for example and he NAILED it. Its really sublime actually, exactly what I wanted and then some.
Image

More pics once everything is cleaned up and I have better lighting.

Of course, the body is only one part of a guitar right? And not the only part that has recieved my love and creativity...

I wanted the headstock to tie into the theme of the body. This guitar is Dave's Axe, but I also wanted to pay tribute to the Supermarine Spitfire, Iron Maiden, and the "Aces High" theme ala the Battle of Britain.

Despite hours of searching the 'Net, this is closest approximation of what I could find in regards to an 'official' Supermarine company logo or coat-of-arms. This is a hood ornament off a car from an employee at Vickers Supermarine. Apparently, the company had a car club among its workers, and this the emblem they made for the club...

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So. Here was the concept art I whipped up:
Image

And, here's the finished product:
Image

The decal was made by Simon over at http://www.decartdecals.com, but he now works for Rothco and Frost. A very fine chap who was very helpful and did more than a bit of redrawing and setup from what I gave him to the printed, finished, end result above. He went above and beyond to get the right colors and the formatting just so. Fittingly - he lives in England, so I'm sure this was a matter of national pride for him (considering the subject matter) and he pulled it off with flying colors! This is a LOT of detail to be crammed in such a tiny area (approx. 1" in diameter)! If anyone needs a quality water-slide decal - I highly, highly recommend him.

This is one of the first of many emails we've traded; and it gives you an idea of the level of quality he's committed to:
"Shades of chrome won’t be possible (if it’s a printed decal you’re after I’ve yet to find a chrome ink which gives a good quality print / is waterproof / is lacquer proof, and until I can find something which fits those criteria I won’t offer it). I can, however, do a few metallic shades for you. Gold, Silver, and Pink and Blue, along with non metallic black, white, green, red, blue. All of the inks I use give a very fine, thin finish, are completely opaque, waterproof, and compatible with all spray lacquers."

God save the Queen!

Right, so now we need a wicked neck plate! Back to the paint program, and many hours later, I came up with this. The serial number K5054 belonged to the very first Supermarine Spitfire prototype.

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The back of the guitar is gloss black, so I had to go with a black neckplate. The original image loses a little bit of 'oomph', but still looks wicked at the right angle. Needless to say, photographing it is difficult - wierd camera angles to negate the reflections for a clearer image was the best I could do. As with most things on the forums, it looks MUCH cooler in person. :) (BTW - thats actual machined metal, not paint, it was made via a diamond etched CNC machine.)

Image

Image

Ok, thats all you get for now.

I welcome all comments and questions. Many more pics to follow as the build progresses!

ORCRiST


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Hi thats a flash paint job there well done to the painter. cant weight to see the finished guitar.Cheers from aus.


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Hi ORCRIST, Great thread so far! Love the paint job and the neckplate - spiffing!

I remember seeing pics of th body somewhere, and as much as I object to eleaborately painted bodys I was strangely fascinated by this one. I like what you've done and hope to see more of it soon!

(I'll post this in the build thread listing if you don't mind!)

Cheers and have a good flight! 8)

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Well this is the one I've wanted to see for a good long while now.

I must say this is exceeding all my expectations. That body, that neck, that neckplate

WOW

This is going to be one stunning guitar.

Oh and this,
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Now, a little about me: I hate strats, rather I should say Fender strats; not the design itself. "WHY?" you ask? My first guitar I ever had was a strat. At the ripe old age of 15 (MANY moons ago boys and girls), I always looked longingly at Jackson's, ESP's, Kramer's and Ibanez's at my local music store. Guitars with a real, locking tremolo, no pickguard, and pickups other than single coils. In the heyday of 80's metal I cursed my strat every time I touched the trem and had to re-tune it. I hated the color (baby blue), NOT a color for a 15 year old and a proper metal guitar, and it just felt cheap (it was a Squire clone, and being 15 had no concept of the words "proper setup"). So after giving up the guitar for a few years, a couple of years ago I got the bug again and now I own both a Jackson and an ESP. Smile


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I was exactly the same, so much so it's frightening reading your take on it.
I always thought the humble strat was far too basic for my tastes. Up until I was about 26.

How I changed my mind is a story for another day though.

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HA!

Some of us have been holding our breath for so long waiting for this we
are now as red in the face as my Fiesta '57RI!

ORCRiST, first; congrats! There is nothing so respectable as seeing a
job through. I'm well aware that you've been having a longer, more
nail-biting wait than the rest of us - and I'm guessing you feel it was worth
it?

On the art work: big kudos to you for the design and fitting all the
elements together so well. And for those reading this as don't know would
you care to tell people some stuff about the painter? He also deserves
public credit.

More later as we see it all come together. For now there is something
missing we can immediately put right. We all know you can't have a build
thread on the Fender Forum without appropriate liquid sustenance. With
your particular WWII aerial interests several possibilities suggest
themselves, but I think one here stands out from the rest:

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Raising a glass to you:

Cheers - C


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May head off down to the Dambusters memorial and see if I can't get some stickers. Kinda busy today though. Theres six songs I've to learn for a audition that I have completely ignored. The audition is tomorrow.

A lot of them old WWII planes flew from here. Suprised there isn't more about em locally.


Wells Bombadier, thats a damn fine ale. I strongly recommend it to anyone.

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May head off down to the Dambusters memorial and see if I can't get some stickers.

Ah - regarding the Dambusters, remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSBtivb ... =1&index=5

I trust any Germans there may happen to be amongst us will find that refreshingly unjingoistic... :)

nikininja wrote:
Wells Bombadier, thats a damn fine ale. I strongly recommend it to anyone.

Lie back and "drink of England" (on the label at the top). Ho ho.

Also, the Spitfire Ale calls itself "the bottle of Britain". Ha ha - someone's getting in on my act with all of these lines! :D

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Germans? Where? Whatever you do, DON'T MENTION THE WAR!

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Ah I'm smiling through the beers remembering that one.

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Post subject: Re: My Dave Murray "Aces High" Supermarine Stratoc
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:55 am
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ORCRiST wrote:
As some of you know, I've been working on a little project. I've been watching the build threads here with great delight. Now things are nearing a final phase for me I thought I'd share. Some of you have been at me to start a thread here for months and I've refrained because the timing hasn't been right. Well its time. And, all good things come to those who wait, right Nik? :wink:

I would like to thank Ceri, Nikininja, and Mr. Martian to name a few who have encouraged and inspired me and have tried to answer my many stupid questions!

I apologize to those of you who frequent other forums and have possibly seen this elsewhere, I don't mean to plaster the 'Net with it, but I think its rather special - albeit from a personal perspective - but have been asked time and again to post a thread here, so here we are.

This thread will have a LOT of pictures so ye are forwarned!

Greetings boys and girls!

First off, it must be said I LOVE Iron Maiden. Best metal band ever in my very humble opinon. Second, I am a avid history buff, especially WWII in general and in particular - the Battle of Britain.

What do these things have in common you ask? For one, a timeless classic by Iron Maiden, called "Aces High". From arguably one of 'Maiden's best albums: 'Powerslave' released in 1984 - an auspicious year for many hard rock and heavy metal albums.

Almost a year ago, I wanted to buy myself a new guitar, and of course, loving Iron Maiden - I wanted, like so many aspiring guitarists - to wield the weapon of my favorite hero's, namely: Dave Murray and Adrian Smith. Adrian has a signature guitar made by Jackson. I already own a Jackson, and its one of my favorite guitars (not that I totally would mind owning Adrian's mind you!), but I don't own a stratocaster due to my metally scarred 15-year old psyche.

Now, a little about me: I hate strats, rather I should say Fender strats; not the design itself. "WHY?" you ask? My first guitar I ever had was a strat. At the ripe old age of 15 (MANY moons ago boys and girls), I always looked longingly at Jackson's, ESP's, Kramer's and Ibanez's at my local music store. Guitars with a real, locking tremolo, no pickguard, and pickups other than single coils. In the heyday of 80's metal I cursed my strat every time I touched the trem and had to re-tune it. I hated the color (baby blue), NOT a color for a 15 year old and a proper metal guitar, and it just felt cheap (it was a Squire clone, and being 15 had no concept of the words "proper setup"). So after giving up the guitar for a few years, a couple of years ago I got the bug again and now I own both a Jackson and an ESP. :)

Anyways, fast forward to the present and my guitar buying dilemma. I wanted something new, something bada*s. As I said, I thought about Adrian's Jackson, but because I already owned such a beautiful specimen (a Dinky DKMG), I decided to check out Dave's signature Fender strat.

I didn't know what to expect, but once I saw pictures of Dave's signature Fender, it just didn't seem right to me. I know its a faithful reproduction of Daves 'Kossoff' strat, but it didn't even have a Floyd Rose on it - and thought that was a damn shame. I've done a LOT of research for this project and can't recall seeing any pics of Daves axe's without a locking trem on them (I'm sure he has them in his vast collection, but I've never seem em, and have never seen him in concert without a Floyd equipped strat). Another thing that bothered me about both Dave and Adrians signature guitars was the paint. Or should I say lack thereof? Flashy paintjobs mean nothing, I just figured that with all of the truely epic Iron Maiden artwork over the years Eddie would somehow, somewhere make an appearance on someone's guitar or bass.

Right then and there, staring at Fender's website - I determined I would make a guitar worthy of Dave Murray and Eddie the 'Ed. I would make a stratocaster that was cool. A stratocaster I would be proud to own, a stratocaster to rule them all.

This is installment One, and I hope you enjoy my project! The intro has been long enough, and I could blather on - but I'll just shut up now and post some pictures. :)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The following was waiting for me when I walked in the door today - its been a while, and at times I admit I thought I'd never see it again. Well after all is said and done - I have to say the cliche'd: "it was worth the wait" holds true... I've had many pictures sent to me over the painting process, and none of them held a candle to having the real thing in my hands. There's nothing like seeing the design I made on paper with colored pencils months ago now in real form. The following are a few pics I took. They're taken in my basement with no windows and a few flourecent lights at night - needless to say some of the pics are fuzzy. I tried a bunch of camera settings as all the flash settings washed out the colors, so trying to capture its true color, I turned off the flash. While some are a tad blurry - I tried to show how much darker things really are. In addition I and my friend have handled it a bit by now so there are fingerprints all over it (I quickly buffed out as many I could with my 100% cotton sleeve). ;) Needless to say it is pure sex to handle and the finish and clear coats are absolutley IMMACULATE. There are absolutley no bumps or flaws period. It feels like holding one beautifully crafted piece of flawless glass. So, any imperfections you might think you see in the finish are a result of my terrible camera skills, poor lighting, and fingerprints. Oh, the sharp-eyed will notice some polishing compound in the recesses and corners, that will all be cleaned up in due time...

My original concept design (actually, this is revision five or so):
Image



This is how the body (Alder, built to Daves' Kossoff strat specs) left my house after it was delivered from Warmoth...
Image



Eight months later... thats right Eight Months.
Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

I really love the exhaust pipe, its very very subtle. Being near the top it contests with the black burst from the back, only in the flash pics (of which, this is not one, heh) does it look crisp and too metallic. Trust me, its not. I told my painter I wanted it to look like the discoloring found on motorcycle pipes for example and he NAILED it. Its really sublime actually, exactly what I wanted and then some.
Image

More pics once everything is cleaned up and I have better lighting.

Of course, the body is only one part of a guitar right? And not the only part that has recieved my love and creativity...

I wanted the headstock to tie into the theme of the body. This guitar is Dave's Axe, but I also wanted to pay tribute to the Supermarine Spitfire, Iron Maiden, and the "Aces High" theme ala the Battle of Britain.

Despite hours of searching the 'Net, this is closest approximation of what I could find in regards to an 'official' Supermarine company logo or coat-of-arms.

So. Here was the concept art I whipped up:
Image

And, here's the finished product:
Image

Applied to the headstock:
Image



Right, so now we need a wicked neck plate! Back to the paint program, and many hours later, I came up with this. The serial number K5054 belonged to the very first Supermarine Spitfire prototype.

Image

The back of the guitar is gloss black, so I had to go with a black neckplate. The original image loses a little bit of 'oomph', but still looks wicked at the right angle. Needless to say, photographing it is difficult - wierd camera angles to negate the reflections for a clearer image was the best I could do. As with most things on the forums, it looks MUCH cooler in person. :) (BTW - thats actual machined metal, not paint, it was made via a diamond etched CNC machine.)

Image

Image

Ok, thats all you get for now.

I welcome all comments and questions. Many more pics to follow as the build progresses!

ORCRiST


Well, being a Iron Maiden fan and a WWII fighter plane enthusiast I have to say that is one beautiful body. Thank you for sharing.

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Ceri wrote:
HA!

Some of us have been holding our breath for so long waiting for this we
are now as red in the face as my Fiesta '57RI!

ORCRiST, first; congrats! There is nothing so respectable as seeing a
job through. I'm well aware that you've been having a longer, more
nail-biting wait than the rest of us - and I'm guessing you feel it was worth
it?

On the art work: big kudos to you for the design and fitting all the
elements together so well. And for those reading this as don't know would
you care to tell people some stuff about the painter? He also deserves
public credit.

More later as we see it all come together. For now there is something
missing we can immediately put right. We all know you can't have a build
thread on the Fender Forum without appropriate liquid sustenance. With
your particular WWII aerial interests several possibilities suggest
themselves, but I think one here stands out from the rest:

Image

Raising a glass to you:

Cheers - C



Thank you all!

Thanks Ceri - quite right.

The beautiful paint was brought to you courtesy of Patrick Sims:
http://www.simscustomshop.com/

Nevin1985 wrote:
That looks great. I bet pictures do not do it justice to what it looks like in person. 8)


You are 100% correct sir! Although once everything is assembled and working I hope to have some "professional" pictures done that will get it much closer to real life.

ORC


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Mate how would you feel if mr Murray offered you top dollar to buy the thing? :lol:

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nikininja wrote:
Mate how would you feel if mr Murray offered you top dollar to buy the thing? :lol:


I'd sell it happily! He IS one of my hero's - and to tell you the sad truth this guitar is far beyond my pathetic talents. Its like giving Excalibur to a lowely squire. :oops:

Ever since I started planning things in my head, I've had a very small hope that (at least once finished) it comes to his attention somehow. I'd be absolutley floored if I actually heard from him, or any official Iron Maiden rep for that matter!

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Well this is the best I could manage mate.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dave-Murray/13459535964?ref=ts&v=wall

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On a side note. It seems that Sims did the paintwork.

That guy gets some mixed reviews. Stuff never being done, people never getting bodies back, excessive wait times. Some say great work, others say not so great. Mainly Ibanez owners.


Seeing that paintwork I can see why it took 8 months. The guy is obviously a perfectionist that wouldn't add the next stage till the first had fully dried.

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