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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:56 am
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Companies try but it doesn't work. We as guitarists are far too conservative. Look at the Parker Fly, a guitar that should outsell all else based on performance. Yet it barely gets bought, the variax too, prime instruments.
Both the Explorer and Vee were released in 58 then pulled.

I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:03 am
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eddie_bowers wrote:
I hope someone comes up with a new shape someday that will become as classic as the strat or the LP (there are other shapes other than those I like too)
Maybe I should get on that :)

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The Teuffel Birdfish: forum user Nutter was reminding me of that one just the other day. Gotta say, call me weird - I seriously like it! I have a suspicion it is not going to catch on in a big way though. Also, I'm not aware that he has patented or trademarked the design as yet... so get copying. If you want.

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In I stroll, unsuspecting, and read my name there. Funny, I think to myself, funny... 8)

Anyway, topic-related: Taking a closer look at the Birdfish (what a name, eh?), has anyone noticed that over all the futuristic, inventive materials and mechanisms on that machine they still used a frumpy old maple neck/fretboard config? :lol: I guess you can never really get away from heritage, can you? :D

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The_Nutter wrote:
silently giggling,

I was giggling too - till I looked at the price. €9000 for the one in the picture, or €11,000 with piezo and midi.

Then I was spluttering tea across my keyboard - because I want it!!! Ouch.

Thank goodness I can't possibly afford it. ...Can I?

Seriously though. The detail that goes into the thing is just jaw-dropping, to me anyhow. Well worth a glance down the items on the left-hand menu:

http://www.teuffel.com/english/guitars/ ... h_main.htm

Too, too cool.

Could they license one with Squier on the headstock for the budget minded amongst us? (Well, not the headstock, but...)

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The Bodies nice...But noone can copy the Headstock which is what completes it for me :)

FretKing has a horrible headstock on top of a Brilliant guitar collection which is actually the reason i wouldnt buy one!

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Uhh, Ceri, you're not honestly considering....? :lol:

Don't! Imagine how many prototypes of interesting new and unique features and inventions you could work on with that kind of dosh. And possibly produce something that doesn't look like some gadget found in a gynocologist's practice... 8)

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Competition is what keeps manufacture healthy.


My complaint was purely on the aesthetics side. If someone wants to build a
better guitar, more power to them. Just stop ripping off Leo's design and create something new. I also don't really care for PRS ripping off the Les Paul and SG shape either, although I hear that they are fine guitars.

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FarRider wrote:
nikininja wrote:

Competition is what keeps manufacture healthy.


My complaint was purely on the aesthetics side. If someone wants to build a
better guitar, more power to them. Just stop ripping off Leo's design and create something new. I also don't really care for PRS ripping off the Les Paul and SG shape either, although I hear that they are fine guitars.


But because of the 'rip off' by eastern manufacurers all them years ago, fender was rescued from destruction.

I really don't have a problem with it and I don't believe fender has that much of a problem with it either. Good business sense saw them to act the way they did in 81. Without it, there would have been a lot more of a battle on their hands and we wouldn't have those beautifull Fender Korea or Japan guitars.
As well as the plethora of downright jaw droppingly good Tokai's on the market now. Ibanez started that way and I suspect ESP did too. They were both Japanese companies long before they had American plants. Infact ESP still carve all their wood in japan and assemble it in America according to Ed Roman.

What about amps. Marshall wouldn't exist without copying the Bassman and the Watkins Dominator. It never stopped em surpassing them though.

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I've never understood loyalty to large corporations. I have an import Strat and it is twice the guitar for half the money. I think that makes me a smart consumer. The Fender company today is not the same as Leo Fender's company.

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