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Post subject: Tanner1994's strat build
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:01 pm
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We'll guys I decided to get in on the guitar building projects!
So.... I have this cheep squier that I plan on modding. It was only $60 so i think it's a good starter for me to get comfortable working on guitars with. I plan on painting it, replacing the pickup, saddles, wiring and pickguard and possibly the neck with a warmoth.

So far I have been able to sand down the top and back . I still need to sand down the sides but here is what I have so far.

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So, I have a few questions.

1. Where can I find replacments for these saddles?

2. Which Gibson humbucker do you think would be best for a jazzy sound?

Thanks guys!

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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:21 pm
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One by one they come out of the woodwork! (Or into it? hmmm...8))
Anyway, always glad to see another build thread! Will add it straight away to the infamous build thread listing... cool!

Good luck Tanner! I have a feeling she's going to be beautiful! :D

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The_Nutter wrote:
One by one they come out of the woodwork! (Or into it? hmmm...8))
Anyway, always glad to see another build thread! Will add it straight away to the infamous build thread listing... cool!

Good luck Tanner! I have a feeling she's going to be beautiful! :D

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8) thank you very much nutter.


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Ah mate you need to cut atleast another pickup route, especialy for jazz.

As for saddles. Thats the one instance in which I would recommend graphtech black plastic string savers.
The way their saddles dull down all the high end has to be a bonus for that style.

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I think that body is a little thinner than a standard strat, don't know if that will affect anything you're doing, but something to keep in mind.


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JasonSD wrote:
I think that body is a little thinner than a standard strat, don't know if that will affect anything you're doing, but something to keep in mind.


ya it is, it's a bullet strat body.


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Hi Tanner: way to go, man!

A good start - did you do all that paint stripping just by sanding, or did you use chemicals or a heat gun? If just sanding - your arms must be killing you by now!

Regarding a jazzy pickup: I guess a Gibson PAF type pup or one of the many imitations thereof is what you need. Something with a low output, that's for sure. But I'm with Nick: I think you need to put one in the neck position too. That's where the jazz tones are to be found...

A manly project, for certain. Good luck!

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Ceri wrote:
Hi Tanner: way to go, man!

A good start - did you do all that paint stripping just by sanding, or did you use chemicals or a heat gun? If just sanding - your arms must be killing you by now!

Regarding a jazzy pickup: I guess a Gibson PAF type pup or one of the many imitations thereof is what you need. Something with a low output, that's for sure. But I'm with Nick: I think you need to put one in the neck position too. That's where the jazz tones are to be found...

A manly project, for certain. Good luck!

Cheers - C


all the sanding was done by hand, my arm was sore and I still need to finish sanding the sides :(

I looked around and I can't seem to find paf pickups, can you please explain to me what they are?

Another pickup route would be nice but I have no clue on how to go about doing it, so I dont think it's something i'm going to be able to do.


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Tanner1994 wrote:
I looked around and I can't seem to find paf pickups, can you please explain to me what they are?

Hi again Tanner: the early humbuckers on Gibsons were stamped P.A.F. which stood for "patent applied for". Ever since then that style of low-ish output humbuckers have been known generically as PAFs.

If you look at most of the well-known aftermarket pickup manufacturers you will find they all have vintage flavored humbuckers that they often refer to as PAFs and claim to be the closest possible replicas of that original sound. Which is to be taken with a small pinch of salt: original PAFs were frequently fairly different to one another; some sounded great, some not so. So there is no absolute definition as to what a PAF is meant to be like.

Gibson of course make their own reissue PAFs, and if you type "Gibson PAF" into Ebay you will find more options than you can shake a stick at.

In the context of your request for a jazzy sounding humbucker I just mentioned a PAF because it is a typically low output type of pickup, though there's plenty of alternatives.

Any help?

Cheers - C


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Tanner1994 wrote:
I looked around and I can't seem to find paf pickups, can you please explain to me what they are?

Hi again Tanner: the early humbuckers on Gibsons were stamped P.A.F. which stood for "patent applied for". Ever since then that style of low-ish output humbuckers have been known generically as PAFs.

If you look at most of the well-known aftermarket pickup manufacturers you will find they all have vintage flavored humbuckers that they often refer to as PAFs and claim to be the closest possible replicas of that original sound. Which is to be taken with a small pinch of salt: original PAFs were frequently fairly different to one another; some sounded great, some not so. So there is no absolute definition as to what a PAF is meant to be like.

Gibson of course make their own reissue PAFs, and if you type "Gibson PAF" into Ebay you will find more options than you can shake a stick at.

In the context of your request for a jazzy sounding humbucker I just mentioned a PAF because it is a typically low output type of pickup, though there's plenty of alternatives.

Any help?

Cheers - C


Awesome! thanks a lot Ceri.
I'll definitly start looking around.


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another question: where can i find a tangerine/orange colored paint for this guitar?


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Tanner1994 wrote:
another question: where can i find a tangerine/orange colored paint for this guitar?


Reranch has good finishing products:

I did not see a solid orange, but they have this translucent one:

http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/reranchorange.html

Here are their other Fender Colors:
http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/fencuscol.html

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Hi Tanner: not much help to you on the orange paint, but just for shucks take a look at the Tangerine finish the gent had put onto this guitar, complete with holographic sparkle:

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... olographic

Wow! Frustratingly, he didn't tell us where the paints could be sourced, though we asked...

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who painted that guitar for him is really an automotive finisher and that color is familiar enough in the custom car world. In other words what I'm saying is you will easily source it (less that expensive glitter element) at an automotive paint supplier, realworld or online.

Do you particularly want nitro or are you OK with acrylic?

Cheers - C


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Kong wrote:
Tanner1994 wrote:
another question: where can i find a tangerine/orange colored paint for this guitar?


Reranch has good finishing products:

I did not see a solid orange, but they have this translucent one:

http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/reranchorange.html

Here are their other Fender Colors:
http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/fencuscol.html


thanks a lot for the links!
But, this guitars wood grain is not pretty enough for a translucent color.

The fiesta red looks like it has a tint of orange to it though...


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Ceri wrote:
Hi Tanner: not much help to you on the orange paint, but just for shucks take a look at the Tangerine finish the gent had put onto this guitar, complete with holographic sparkle:

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... olographic

Wow! Frustratingly, he didn't tell us where the paints could be sourced, though we asked...

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who painted that guitar for him is really an automotive finisher and that color is familiar enough in the custom car world. In other words what I'm saying is you will easily source it (less that expensive glitter element) at an automotive paint supplier, realworld or online.

Do you particularly want nitro or are you OK with acrylic?

Cheers - C


That is pretty much the color I'm looking for, just without the sparkles.

I think taking it to get painted at an automotive finishers shop might be a really good idea, being that I dont have the experience to paint a guitar on my own and they proably have a very nice array of colors.

As far as the type of finish goes, I am fine with acrylic.


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