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I'm feeling pretty confident that a lot of thought is going into this before the first "etched in stone" decision or choice is made.

I'm also hoping that Martian doesn't feel rushed and takes his time
to build this the way he really wants it.


Absolutely.

I surely won't work under any kind of rush or pressure as this guitar shall be my, "Now and Forever Strat". I do not feel any kind of tension whatsoever any way. So, barring any unforeseen circumstances, there's certainly not going to be any delay either as indeed, I'm anxious to get started.

Once I physically start though, everything will then have been, "etched in stone" in my head where I'll positively be following a 'master plan' from there. And yes, each and every facet of this build is currently going through [my] constant and repeated mental scrutiny.

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Great!! It has arrived at last. I've been away for a few hours. I can tell you like it from your postings Martian. Like Mike said don't be rushed on this build. I'm so happy for you my friend!! :D :wink:


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Once I physically start though, everything will then have been, "etched in stone" in my head where I'll positively be following a 'master plan' from there. And yes, each and every facet of this build is currently going through [my] constant and repeated mental scrutiny.

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product one on one so, of course, do take your time. We can certainly look beyond the first of next year for a patiently executed result and a couple of beers to celebrate it with :wink:

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Once I physically start though, everything will then have been, "etched in stone" in my head where I'll positively be following a 'master plan' from there. And yes, each and every facet of this build is currently going through [my] constant and repeated mental scrutiny.

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product one on one so, of course, do take your time. We can certainly look beyond the first of next year for a patiently executed result and a couple of beers to celebrate it with :wink:


Most definitely!

I doubt the final, finished build itself will carry over into next year though.

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Once I physically start though, everything will then have been, "etched in stone" in my head where I'll positively be following a 'master plan' from there. And yes, each and every facet of this build is currently going through [my] constant and repeated mental scrutiny.

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product one on one so, of course, do take your time. We can certainly look beyond the first of next year for a patiently executed result and a couple of beers to celebrate it with :wink:


Most definitely!

I doubt the final, finished build itself will carry over into next year though.

We shall see what the calendar holds then. :idea:

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[Tuesday p.m. in Blighty] So. Been away for the weekend. Did I miss anything...?

Ah-ha! The postman's been! :D

Congrats! The fun continues. 8)

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I think 'original superior wiring options' should be the new end of headstock decal.

The original is still the best of the big four, in my book. No bridge tone, reverse polarity middle, 3 selector switch, goodness.

Bah I'm a old fudyduddy set in my ways, so it would seem.

I love it!
Interesting, you mentioning the 3 way selector switch as I prefer it as well. Taking it a step further, a pair of them would allow for each and every combination of the pickups or that second switch could be used for three distinct tonal circuit options. One switch could be installed directly above the other on the pickguard; no routing of the body whatsoever, only a pickguard cut and still, simplicity of operation. Hmmm...

Well, it's bedtime for me, I'm going to have to sleep on this!

If you do two 3-way switches, I sure would like to see the wiring diagram for it. Sounds unique and cool!

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Well, it's bedtime for me, I'm going to have to sleep on this![/quote]
If you do two 3-way switches, I sure would like to see the wiring diagram for it. Sounds unique and cool![/quote]

Maybe he should take a crack at Andy's circuit. :shock:

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If you do two 3-way switches, I sure would like to see the wiring diagram for it. Sounds unique and cool!

Maybe he should take a crack at Andy's circuit. :shock:

Though I've got a sort of instinct he might not... :wink:
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I make that 32 different pickup combinations not including the Mid boost which works with all of the above. Awesome!

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You are absolutely correct with the whole, "this switch does this, this one does that" thing. Besides, like I've said to many people over the years, you may have 50 options but most people usually zero in on and only use 3.


Horses for courses; strokes for folks. :D

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Well, it's bedtime for me, I'm going to have to sleep on this!

If you do two 3-way switches, I sure would like to see the wiring diagram for it. Sounds unique and cool![/quote]

Maybe he should take a crack at Andy's circuit. :shock:[/quote]

Actually, at the heart of the 'any and all' pickup combo wiring would be where the two, three way switches would be wired like a Tele. The hook up of the tone control(s) would not even have to be decided at this point.

Wire the neck and bridge pickups to the first switch just like a Tele is wired. Next, instead of this switch feeding into the volume pot, it would feed into the second "Tele" switch as a bridge pickup, so to speak. The middle pickup of the Strat would then be wired to the second switch as a neck pickup and then this second switch would feed to the volume pot.

So, here's how the two switches would interact:

Switch #1 works just like a Tele: Bridge / Bridge and Neck / Neck.

Switch #2 in the "bridge" position allows Switch #1 to work normally as described above.

Throw Switch #2 in the middle position and now, the middle pickup is on with however Switch #1 is set. For example, if Switch #1 is set for just the bridge pickup, now the bridge and middle pickups are on.

Throw Switch #2 to the neck position and now only the middle Strat pickup is on; Switch #1 is removed from the circuit.

Simple yet efficient!

For the three separate tonal circuits, Switch #1 can be a 3 way or 5 way Strat switch. The wiring of this switch would be stock but instead of feeding it into the volume pot, it could be fed directly into Switch #2.

Remember, the two tone pots and two caps are different values so there will be two distinct tonalities as well as if you just ran the pickups straight to the jack, bypassing any tone pots/caps. These are the three distinct circuits.

This second switch must be a three way. It would be wired like a stock Strat but instead of pickups, it would have the upper tone control (with cap) as one position/selection, the lower tone control (with cap) as another position/selection and just a wire with no load at all on it as the third position/selection. The switch itself would then be fed into the left leg of the volume pot.

Here too, simple yet efficient.

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Martian that sounds like the way to go. I'm interested in how the pickups react with the 750 pot, should sound sparkley, no?

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PS: I hope my mum doesn't stumble upon this thread. All we're talking about is nuts and 3-ways. :roll: (that might have been the lamest joke this year: glad I made it into the competition!) :lol:


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This is how my friend from Sweden, Goran, did his seven sound wiring :

http://myfolder.se/myspace/?m=6

We do some online collabs and jams and it sounds really good!

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Martian that sounds like the way to go. I'm interested in how the pickups react with the 750 pot, should sound sparkley, no?

-Nutter

PS: I hope my mum doesn't stumble upon this thread. All we're talking about is nuts and 3-ways. :roll: (that might have been the lamest joke this year: glad I made it into the competition!) :lol:


Unfortunately, I've scrapped the 750K pot. I didn't like the swell I was getting on it around '7' and just like megpots, it was very touchy between '4' and '1', rendering it simply unacceptable to me. Like I said earlier, I guess that's why there are no 750K pots out there but at least I gave it a shot.

Don't forget the bandying about of pot 'K' values. She might interpret these as kilo weights of weed. (Clearly not any better of a joke but keeping within the vein.)

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Miami Mike wrote:
This is how my friend from Sweden, Goran, did his seven sound wiring :

http://myfolder.se/myspace/?m=6

We do some online collabs and jams and it sounds really good!


Actually, the above can be achieved with a 'normal' 5 way switch and a push/pull pot where there would be no redundancies.

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Don't forget the bandying about of pot 'K' values. She might interpret these as kilo weights of weed. (Clearly not any better of a joke but keeping within the vein.)


Ah, you and I know we can do better than that, we're just saving the good ones for a different occasion... We've been raised on Python's & Co., in order to stay human we need a joke of questionable quality once in a while...

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Agree on the pots. 500 for your output of the PUs seems ok. 8)


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