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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:50 am
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A friend sent me this link and I decided to try it out. I am really impressed. I did it to my 89' AMSTD and It works beautifully and completely as advertised. If you haven't seen it, definitely check it out. :wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy-F7iSI ... r_embedded

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:45 am
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I used this guys video to set up my Tremolo and man it works!! I can do whatever I want and my Strat stays in tune!!
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This link has been posted multiple times on every Fender Strat related website in the known universe, including this one. Anyone who has not seen it has been living in a cave for the last 20 years.

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:09 am
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I've been a longtime fan of Carl's method and never have much tuning trouble. Atlast somebody has posted a good explanation on youtube. I've never seen that particular vid before.

Glad I don't assume everyone knows everything. Theres a far better shot of his string claw on that vid. That angle is close to 1/4" across the claw.

Wonder what size strings he uses.

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:23 pm
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carl is a genius. i too have have followed his advice, i've seen a few vids of his, but I think this is the first time i've seen that particular one.

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:32 pm
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What's the best way to do that? I'm guessing adjust the treble side to get the correct interval on the high E and then adjust the bass side to get the correct interval on the G? Then the B is just naturally correct?


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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:21 pm
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I set the claw out each side equally until the trem floats at the open G up to Bb pullup is available.

Then I play a straight barre at the 5th fret. Physicaly slide my finger down to the 4th fret then back up to 5th. Listen carefully to it, then mimic it with the trem, instead of a finger slide.

You will hear that it doesn't sound right on the trem. Adjust the angle only of your claw until the chord slide sounds right. I.e the bass side isnt dipping more than the treble. That all the notes move down a equal ammount instead of at different intervals.

You will find that you need to adjust your claw treble side out, bass side in. To do that move each screw 1/4 or half a turn at a time. So you go bass side screw in half a turn, treble side out half a turn. That will keep your trem float where you want it. One screw compliments the other whilst acting predominantly on their area of the strings.

It's a good setup. I rarely have to tune my strats. From gig to gig their pretty much always at concert pitch.

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:33 pm
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Ahhh. Thanks. I would have never figured out the sliding barre vs the trem.


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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:52 pm
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jbyrdpb wrote:
Ahhh. Thanks. I would have never figured out the sliding barre vs the trem.


I only got it from one of Carl's other vids on the subject. I'm quite smitten with the method.
Like I say it takes a hell of a lot of time. Expect to be checking your guitar for a month or two, sliding barre against the trem. Once you have it right though, the world is your oyster as far as trems go.

I restrung my guitar last saturday afternoon. Took it out to gig, tuned it before we went on. Played, put it away for the week. Took it out yesterday at a open air gig. Still perfectly intune. Let it settle to the temperature, still right. End of the night it was still spot on.
Takes a lot of time but is well worth all the effort, I'm not light on my trem by any means.

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:37 pm
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The guy's brilliant,it goes to show that people who rag on cheaper guitars usually don't know what they're talking about.The way he had that $300 Tex Mex set up to nail the harmonics and bends so easily goes to show that most people who complain about tuning problems and such either don't know how to do a prroper set up or they have a poor tech.He made $300 sound like a million bucks-so it can be done provided you have the patience and know what you're doing.

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:40 am
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nikininja wrote:
Like I say it takes a hell of a lot of time. Expect to be checking your guitar for a month or two, sliding barre against the trem. Once you have it right though, the world is your oyster as far as trems go.


I agree and you can get some of those harmonics to mess with and keep coming back to 'true' in tune.

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Okay, so a friend of mine sent me this video and claims it's a much better
way...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Oyc6slYRc

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