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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:53 am
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Hello!

i'm just wondering what differences there is between Fender American stratocaster and Fender Amerixan Deluxe stratocaster?? If somebody could please give me an answer then i would blee very happy .
I'm already waiting for your answer :wink:

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:52 pm
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Give this link a try http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stratguide

American Series
Modern day version of an American icon
Alder body
Vintage body radius and contours
Polyurethane finish
C-shaped neck
9.5" fretboard radius
22 medium jumbo frets
2-point synchronized tremolo
Hand-rolled fingerboard edges
3-ply parchment pickguard
Detailed nut work
Alnico pickups with modern stagger
Staggered tuning keys
Molded case

American Deluxe
Everything you could want in a Strat: The traditional look and feel of a classic Stratocaster guitar with a little extra juice under the hood.
3 Samarium Cobalt Noiseless Strat pickups
S-1 switching system
Alder body
Modern C-shaped maple neck
Maple or rosewood fingerboard
Satin polyurethane finish
9.5" fretboard radius
22 medium jumbo frets
Imported vintage-style hardware
2-point synchronized tremolo with polished stainless steel saddles
Pop-in tremolo arm
Chrome appliqué logo
Aged plastic parts
Abalone inlays
Highly detailed fret and nut work (LSR on some models)

That is the basic difference.

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:13 pm
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The last guy that posted had things totally accurate. If you are trying to decide between the two, I would suggest the deluxe as it has the S-1 switch. This adds a ton to your tone and gives you more options. Totally worth it!!


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the american series also has the s-1 switching!


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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:14 am
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btwade wrote:
the american series also has the s-1 switching!

Are you sure about that btwade? OK, maybe you're right. Anyway, the way I see it, the deluxe is more beautiful, better for recording, better-balanced strapped-on and more versatile. What I don't like so much is the SCN pups which are really silent but they just lack something-I could describe the problem as sound coming from the nose rather than the mouth. Mine is ash-maple, which might also be responsible for that, but I don't really know because I haven't had the chance to play an alder-rosewood deluxe. By the way, any ideas on this? (in a different thread I guess). The rosewood series that I've heard was warmer but annoyingly noisier.


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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:40 am
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btwade wrote:
the american series also has the s-1 switching!


Are you sure about the s-1? My American is established with the Delta-Tone-System, which takes the tone-pot off the circuit on middle and bridge p/u in pos. 10. It's from 2005 and I think this is an actual one. Never saw a s-1 on an American Standard. Did I miss something??

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:56 pm
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To the best of my knowledge the american standards don't have s-1 switching.

I own a 2005 american deluxe and feel I'll never need another guitar. I love it.
After playing the new 2008 american standards though they feel really good for the money. The s-1 switching on an american deluxe is a great feature for a variety of tones but the american standards still sound like a great strat which is the important thing!

For me the best thing about the american deluxe is the feel. The heavier body definitely adds to the tone for me, and they have the best neck on them that feels so good to play. I say try them both and see which one you prefer the feel of.


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:16 pm
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I liked the abalone inlay on the Deluxe neck and I am a fan of Bill Lawrence designed pickups, but I just couldn't get behind the S-1 system with the push button in the volume knob. Strats have gone a long way without needing batteries. I would hate to get used to the tones and have a battery go out or have something go wrong with the circuit while on a gig.

I'm a keep-it-simpleton, I know. :wink:


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stratoBobster wrote:
I liked the abalone inlay on the Deluxe neck and I am a fan of Bill Lawrence designed pickups, but I just couldn't get behind the S-1 system with the push button in the volume knob. Strats have gone a long way without needing batteries. I would hate to get used to the tones and have a battery go out or have something go wrong with the circuit while on a gig.

I'm a keep-it-simpleton, I know. :wink:


Only the S-1 system doesn't require batteries. All it does is add a cap in series or parallel depending on the switch position. I do think the Deluxe is beautiful.

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:25 pm
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The american deluxes don't need batteries - it's not an active system, it just allows more combinations of pick-ups to be used, so no worries about batteries going during the crucial solo!

The thing that concerned me when I first heard about the s-1 switching was that it wouldn't have the right strat sound, but with the button out, they're great strat pickups being used in the same way as on any standard strat configuration.


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cryingstrat wrote:
stratoBobster wrote:
I liked the abalone inlay on the Deluxe neck and I am a fan of Bill Lawrence designed pickups, but I just couldn't get behind the S-1 system with the push button in the volume knob. Strats have gone a long way without needing batteries. I would hate to get used to the tones and have a battery go out or have something go wrong with the circuit while on a gig.

I'm a keep-it-simpleton, I know. :wink:


Only the S-1 system doesn't require batteries. All it does is add a cap in series or parallel depending on the switch position. I do think the Deluxe is beautiful.


Thank you for the correction on the battery. The switch in the volume know still puts me off. I am so conservative. I figure I'll warm up to tremelo systems in strats any year now. :wink:


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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:19 am
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It really depends on what you're looking for as far as tone goes, I personally am not fond of the S-1 switching, just my opinion. If you can, really test out the deluxe with an amp similar to yours. And run both of them through your regular playing style. Both are absolutely gorgeous and high quality strats. good luck!! 8)

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:11 pm
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Hi Fransmaister, I just wanted to put some imagery to this a little...
Below you see the tremolo that comes on the American Deluxe Strat:
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This is a Vintage American Strat Tremolo:
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The tremolo on the new 2008 American Standard Strat:
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is kinda like a cross between the two tremolos u see above. It is a two-pole tremolo just like the modern trems on the deluxe except it uses vintage style saddles. So it looks and feels alot like the vintage trem but doesn't have those six screws going into the wood. It is vintage style under your resting hand but it is a two pole bridge (debatably better for Modern style wammy playing).
If you want to dive bomb the wammy bar on the 6 screw style bridge it can be risky. I have heard stories of people cracking the wood from wanking on a vintage wammy too hard.
I find the American Deluxe stays in tune when using the wammy much better with the locking tuners & LSR roller nut at the headstock.
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Coupled with the recess in the heel (wood where the neck meets the body) in your hand & I was in love!
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I am buying both the American Standard & an American Deluxe.

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