ive made up my mind on the humbucker, dimarzio paf 36 ann, zebra color
texas specials neck and middle S1 switch. black pg
i returned the classic 60s, and decided to take the cash and do some mods.
going more for quality over quantity

i think itll be killer.

martian, couple of questions.
can i use the stock s1 switch and pots from the am deluxe sss.
or do you think itll be a straight drop in? or would you sugest new pots .47 cap
etc...
i noticed several differences in choices f spaced? will it make a difference?

hey man sorry for all the questions....

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oogway, kungfu panda 2008

i am hoping i could get some help here,

my questions are not with my pickup choices, but rather if texas specials and dimarzio paf 36 anniversary will drop straight into my american deluxe sss v neck?
mainly because of the s1 switch, i would rather not change out the s1 switch.

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oogway, kungfu panda 2008

If you have an SSS with S-1 and want to put in a humbucker you have the wrong wireing combination in the way that Fender does the HSS style with S-1 they are wired very differently,go to the support pages and look at the wiring diagrams and the pages for explanation of the switching with and without the hum.

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martian, couple of questions.
can i use the stock s1 switch and pots from the am deluxe sss.
or do you think itll be a straight drop in? or would you sugest new pots .47 cap
etc...
i noticed several differences in choices f spaced? will it make a difference?

hey man sorry for all the questions....[/quote]

Yes you can use the S1 with no problem. A minor issue will be the phasing of the DiMarzio in conjunction with the TSs. If upon wiring up the DiMarzio you find it is out of phase with the other two, reverse the red and green wires of the DiMarzio.

The pots are your biggest consideration here. See, the DiMarzio should have 500Ks because if you used 250Ks, the DiMarzio wired 'normally' will sound 'fizzy' and compressed. The TSs on the other hand, were designed with their beefy attributes in conjunction with 250K pots. So, if you used a 500K, the TSs will loose their 'beef' so to speak and essentially sound like a couple of CS69s (for better or for worse) with a touch more power. Obviously, you are "featuring" the DiMarzio so in terms of this compromise coupled by the fact that the S-1 shall allow the pickups to work in series which automatically will sound 'farty' with 250Ks, the 500Ks are the logical way to go. In other words, your circuit will overall be the most versatile and pleasing with the 500Ks even with the aforementioned compromises.

Not to compound the issue but if you decide to wire the DiMarzio itself for parallel or single coil capabilities, although DC resistance wise, the 250K would then be the better match, the most audible results would again be with that of a 500K where here too, such capabilities are presumed to be used with a 500K system.

As to the cap, for the sake of the DiMarzio, I'd go with the .022mf as rarely does one need the total treble drain of a .047mf. Meaning, dialing a tone pot down to '0' for a middle or neck pickup, even that of a single coil.

The F space does make a big difference in the sense that the polepieces of any pickup create a magnetic window as to how the vibrating strings are picked up and processed. So, if a string as it sits over a pickup doesn't visually 'nick' its respective polepiece, the window is altered to where the pickup is not allowed to properly do its job tonally nor volume wise.

FYI: DiMarzio uses a most narrow polepiece spacing in comparison to the majority of the various aftermarket premium HB manufacturers. Any and all DiMarzio HBs used for the bridge position of any guitar would do better using DiMarzio "F" spaced HBs as even here too, their "F" spacing is still narrower than most by comparison.

One last thing: Some players choose to cut out a HB hole in their existing pickguard. This usually guarantees a mounting ring for cosmetic reasons. Now if the HB hole and/or the placement of the mounting ring isn't flawless, oftentimes the mounting ring will butt up against the lower part of the volume knob in addition to the strings not sitting properly over the polepieces. In light of these possibilities, you may want to consider buying a premium aftermarket S/S/H pickguard that already has the HB hole and a Gibson type HB mounting screw configuration for the HB. A Fender one will not do as they have the two bass side mounting screws which will not help you as you'll have to add a third hole in between the existing two for the DiMarzio and here again, it is unsightly both cosmetic wise and you'll probably run into some if not all of the aforementioned problems if it isn't perfect.

As to your apology, there is absolutely none needed as all of the questions you've asked are most intelligent and directly relevant to the ultimate success of your project. Consider too that I had to learn all this good stuff somewhere and believe me, I asked LOTS of questions back in the day as it is surely best to ask first rather than straying off in the wrong direction(s) without all the pertinent facts. Remember, superior planning yields superior results so do not hesitate.

I will say this though, you're lucky I just happened to read this thread. For future reference, if you have a question or questions for me, please put it in the title of your thread so I'll definitely read it.

Good luck with your project!

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If you have an SSS with S-1 and want to put in a humbucker you have the wrong wireing combination in the way that Fender does the HSS style with S-1 they are wired very differently,go to the support pages and look at the wiring diagrams and the pages for explanation of the switching with and without the hum.

The DiMarzio as well as the Texas Specials have floating grounds which facilitate series applications. Where is the conflict you insist upon? If it is the ground of the OEM pickups' chassis wires where in contrast the TSs do not have one, it is irrelevant.

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Howdy!

I believe our Celestial Guitar Guru is spot on here (as usual! ). Quality stuff!

I personally prefer the series options featured on the SSS config but would probably end up installing a DPDT switch to split the HB before it goes to the S-1 switch so I can enjoy the best of both.

Andy

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I thank you!

Andy,

I agree with the DPDT for even more versatility. In this case, a push/pull pot would also be good option!

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Absolutely!

FWIW. Although I'm a home studio player, I'm not a fan of the push/pull pots and prefer to be able to flick a switch on the fly than grab a pot. But for those who wish to maintain the original ascetics of their guitar and benefit from a relatively easy install then a push/pull is a winner every time.

Lov'in your work Martian!

Andy

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thanks martian and andy

that was both helpful and in a way discouraging in using the s1 switch with this project.
ill have to look around see if i find someone i can trust to do the job correctly.
the only reason im discouraged to this myself is because i took a look at the wiring of the deluxe. complicated...
im not very experienced and dont want to damage it.

though i would love to use the s1 setup, i may just do a complete wiring project with a push pull pot for the dimarzio in this particular pickup offers a 4 conductor wiring option.

hwy1strat has this particular pickup in his strat im hoping it does fit into the the pg w/o any alterations.

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now can i use a 500 k push pull pot w .22 cap for the hb, and 250 k pot .47 cap for the tx spcl, and a 250 k volume or 500k volume?

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oogway, kungfu panda 2008

You can use any combination of pots and caps you want regardless of what I or others may recommend.

The key word here is, "combinations".

See, if you dedicate half the circuit to the HB and the other half to the singles, granted, each will have their optimum sound provided they are NEVER combined with each other. Once you combine them, that throws your whole optimizing scheme right out the window where the results will be far less acceptable than my suggested component values. I was going to touch on this in my earlier exposition but I didn't want to put you on 'overload' so early in the morning.

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oogway, kungfu panda 2008

this guitar is the inspiration for my strat that im customizing
http://www.themusicfarm.com/products/Fe ... 221775e56f

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oogway, kungfu panda 2008

Dollar wise, you're infinitely better off doing your own.

Too bad you don't live around my neck of the woods. I'd have your project completed and up and running in no time!

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