Need help with identifying if this Sambora strat is the real

ebaysux · **Posted:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:31 pm

Thank you for the info..

But I do not think you understood my reply.

Wood grain is like fingerprints..no two are exactly the same. If you look at the last pic you posted...notice the grain pattern of the last two fret boards. The pattern is not perfectly placed on each one..but certainly there is a pattern,and that pattern is IDENTICAL.

What this concludes beyond a shadow of a doubt, is that the Birdseye/flame pattern is not real..but fake. It is some kind of artificial finish applied over the maple to make it appear to to be flame..when it is actually a foto finish or other technique or process applied over plain old maple.

But as I stated, since I desire a plain old maple, the fact that the grain is fake does not bother me, I just want to know if I can get a better deal if I opt to purchase the neck in it's natural state, with a standard nut, headstock truss rod plug and star inlays.

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

ebaysux, I thik I get what your saying. i am awaiting another email from the dealer about buying the neck separate and further info on the guitar.

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

Just giving you guys the heads up this Sambora guitar was too good to be true. Proof came a few nights earlier when someone sold a white Sambora strat on ebay for $1600-$1800. I noticed the pics used on ebay had the same serial number as the one that guy was trying to sell me and they both are missing the bar on the headstock that is to help keep the strings in tune. So beware, and I sent the guy a text today asking for his name so i can send him payment for the Sambora strat and he sent me his name and address. So should I file a police report or what? I have never been in this position before.

SamboStrat83 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:40 pm **Posts:** 62

rdfnd1253 wrote:

Just giving you guys the heads up this Sambora guitar was too good to be true. Proof came a few nights earlier when someone sold a white Sambora strat on ebay for $1600-$1800. I noticed the pics used on ebay had the same serial number as the one that guy was trying to sell me and they both are missing the bar on the headstock that is to help keep the strings in tune. So beware, and I sent the guy a text today asking for his name so i can send him payment for the Sambora strat and he sent me his name and address. So should I file a police report or what? I have never been in this position before.

Someone's got to stop him so if you have his details, I would pass them on to the authorities. At worst, they'll take no notice but if they do, you'll have prevented someone else in your position from getting ripped off if they aren't necessarily as vigilant or sceptical as you've been.

I'm sorry you didn't bag a legit one though. Hopefully one will come up soon.

ebaysux · **Posted:** Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:36 pm

Yeah it was pretty suspect from the get go. I know some scammers do the same thing with cars. They copy pictures from ebay or other sites and claim to be the seller on Craiglist.

A good clue is just like this dude was doing to you...try to get you to pay using a form of payment that offers you no recourse.

I would report him. Did he give you an actual address or a PO box? Usually these scammers do not give out legit info or addresses.

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

THanks guys and yea I will attempt the authorities on tuesday. This fool thinks I'm still going to pay for the guitar. Hahah should I say something like "nice try scamming F*CK Face" or just not answer back. I'm soooooo mad as he does have my shipping info as I had originally asked him to quote me a shipping price.

Sambo, yea thanks I guess with time I will get one. I was going to buy the one off ebay and made them an offer but they said it wasn't enough and that if I agreed to $1800 I could have it. Unfortunately I was at work when I got the message and came home 8 hrs later to find someone had already bought it. Such a good price too! But hopefully I can find a cherryburst one for a good price or better price than the white one. That's the Sambora model I want the most. I think the next model I would like is either the gold aztec model or Paisley strat. The paisley strat unfortunately commands too high of a price and the aztec gold model I can't find for sale.

EbaySux, thanks! Yea alot didn't add up and the loser gave me a name and shipping info. So i will try to report it after the holiday and see where it goes from there. I wish i lived closer to where he is located. I'd show up in person and call him out on it.

SamboStrat83 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:40 pm **Posts:** 62

Yeah, you'll struggle to get an Aztec Gold one as they seem to be rarer than the Paisleys - I'd be intrigued to know how many of those gold ones were actually made cos it can only be a handful at most.

With regards to sending him an email letting him know what you think of him, I'd advise against it purely because if you do, you're tipping him off that you've busted him and he could go to ground before the authorities act on it.

I say just play along with it until the police are knocking on his door.

chromeface · **Posted:** Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:54 am

ebaysux wrote:

Okay..here is my opinion. It is not a Fender. However, I would need to feel it...play it..hear it etc to even begin to give a fair evaluation.

The specs need to be given...IE:..Who makes the pick ups? What model are they?..is the body a solid or capped? what type of bridge is it..vintage trem or a piece of crap? What is the body made from? Could be basswood or Agathis for all we know with a cap.

As far as the neck....I am tossed. The quality from the pics appears decent..but I have a few notes....

1) The headstock appears to be a foto flame or similar. I would want to know what it is for sure before purchasing. Is it a genuine flame maple or a veneer? Or some kind of "faux" finish?

2) The star inlays are not straight as opposed to a real Sambora neck..but it still is a sexy neck..for the right price I would consider buying one myself if I was given the specs.

Which leads to my next questions. Do you know the specs of this neck and how much do they want for it? For the right price I would consider one...I would probably never buy the whole guitar, but the star inlay neck may be the closet thing to a genuine Sambora that I will be able to afford in my lifetime...or at least in the very near future.

I also notice the star neck on the guitar has a standard nut...but the neck alone appears to be cut for a FR locking. I would want for myself the neck with a standard nut, personally I would rather shove hot pokers into my eyes then deal with an FR. Actually if i had my way..most Strats would be string through hardtails and not trem.

I would have to take down the finish and re shape the headstock...I would not do this in any attempt to "fool" anyone..but only because they did leave enough "meat" to form it into a fender style, which is a must have for me. This would be for my personal stock..not resale.

Very nice axe!

BTW, this guitar would look better with a FR locking trem.

As for the config, I'm not sure if the single-coils are Fender Texas Specials or another hi-quality brand. The humbucker looks like a Seymour Duncan Trembucker in my eyes.

If you add a Clapton Mid-Boost with TBX and a push/push bypass switch, you'll get a sound closer to that of Richie's. Richie's own guitar had two Texas Specials and a DiMarzio PAF Pro.

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

ebaysux, have any of your contacts heard anything about a Sambora strat or sambora strat neck being up on the chopping block(pun intended)?

ebaysux · **Posted:** Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:25 pm

Not yet. They are in demand and not easy to find so that makes them extra hard to come by, especially a killer deal. But I certainly will keep my eyes open, the word is out around here.

ebaysux · **Posted:** Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:27 pm

Any word on if that guitar maker in Thailand will let us buy necks built to our specs and if so how much?

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

ebaysux, thanks man it is definitely appreciated!

As for the thailand builder I havent hear back from the dealer who sells that brand of guitars but the last email I got about a week ago did state he was awaiting the builders reply. He had stated the builder was in the hospital sick so it maybe some time before I get a response back. He did give me a price quote of about $1500 for a custom sambora strat. I was reading reviews of all the models of Atlas brand guitars and not one review was bad or below an 8. It apparently is a family run business where the grandfather/father build the guitars by hand and have now expanded toa few more builders but their quality control is highly praised in all the reviews I have read about the guitars. ALso the reviews on the pickups that they hand wound themselves is great as well. I found one used and might take a stab at it for $800. Im still torn about it though.

Also guys be on the look out of these replica sambora strats....and the guy states in the comments that it is a usa sambora but it doesn't have the boost preamp so its a fake and look at what he is asking for it. It was a dead give away!

http://www.ioffer.com/i/fender-stratoca ... ource=eisi

ebaysux · **Posted:** Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:42 am

Wow, that auction site or whatever it is , is a joke. First off..there are two different guitars in the same auction, but says it's only for one guitar. They are both obvious fakes.

Although the sambora style one does have the star neck and FR trem,...it does not have Samboras signature on the headstock, but some kind of incorrect contour body decal.

Yeah I would avoid that site and seller. I have a feeling he would send nothing but gladly take your money.

rdfnd1253 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:45 pm **Posts:** 162

Blatant ripoff is an understatement! That auction and the guitar are without doubt a fake and I really feel bad for anyone that buys the guitar thinking its a legit Sambora strat.

ebaysux · **Posted:** Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:49 pm

Actually that bogus auction does have some merit....and that is to get a laugh. If you scroll down to the bottom you can view some buyer/seller communication...if you call it that.

It is either someone asking if these are USA or fakes...and getting no answer but "send payment now I send guitar" etc..or people that can barely speak English asking a question, and getting an answer by someone who can barely speak English...yes..it is a total joke but it is good for a laugh. I am almost amazed this even goes on...but apparently it does.

Also if you click on "see sellers other items" the site is loaded with all kinds of fake bogus "signature series" including Slash Les Pauls and others..all for like $350.00 with shipping...yeah maybe in fantasy land.

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