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Post subject: Height of two-point trem
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:08 pm
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I comfortable with most all the 37 or so adjustment points on a strat.

I have no idea what the parameters are to adjust the height of the American 2-Point Synchronized Tremol strat bridge.

Can anyone help me?


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:45 am
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I'm not trying to be a wise guy but... it's safe to assume that no one on this forum has a clue as to the correct adjustment at these two critical points? Or... perhaps it doesn't really matter what the height is so long as they are not adjusted too low?

what's the real deal here?


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:58 am
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Strataholic wrote:
Or... perhaps it doesn't really matter what the height is so long as they are not adjusted too low?

Howdy!

Works for me! :D

I don't know the offical heights but i set my trem so its just off the body at the posts and just over the 1/8th" off the body at the back. I make sure both posts are level with each other.

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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:01 am
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Strataholic wrote:
I comfortable with most all the 37 or so adjustment points on a strat.

I have no idea what the parameters are to adjust the height of the American 2-Point Synchronized Tremol strat bridge.

Can anyone help me?


You want the pivot point (2 bridge plate screws) to be at the point where the plate lies flat when the rest of the bridge is flat against the body. If your floating your bridge, pull back on the bar so the bridge lies flat. Now adjust the pivot points so the bridge is truly perfectly flat.

If you're asking about floating height, that's pretty much preference. Fender says start at about 1/8 inch off the body. I personally have mine so that when I pull back all the way I create certain notes off certain strings.

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You are not alone in not finding much info about adjusting the height of the two point trem. Even Fender neglects this info in their Strat setup guide: http://www.fender.com/support/stratocas ... _guide.php
The only height adjustment referred to is saddle height.

There is lots of info out there how to set the 6 screws on vintage style bridge, but I find that it doesn't quite work well for the 2 point bridge. I prefer the 2 point bridge slightly higher in the front than the vintage style for floating tremolo. That's the way my American Series came from the factory and it has been working well, so I'm keeping it that way. I'll take some measurements this evening and report back.

If you're going to deck or block your bridge you might get away with lowering the two posts until the bridge is flush with the body, but then you might have to raise the saddles considerably.

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Oh, and if you want it to stay in tune, the secret is string tension must equal spring tension of the trem springs. Takes a while to get it set up, but when you do.... priceless!

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Thanks for all the great info!

The technique I use to set the height of the six bridge plate screws for the vintage 6-point bridge is easy and makes sense to me. with all the tension off the bridge plate (no strings or trem springs attached), I'll turn each screw head until it just starts to lift (or move) the bridge plate. Then I'll back off about 1/8 turn.

Would it make sense to use the same technique with the 2-point system?


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Thanks for all the great info!

The technique I use to set the height of the six bridge plate screws for the vintage 6-point bridge is easy and makes sense to me. with all the tension off the bridge plate (no strings or trem springs attached), I'll turn each screw head until it just starts to lift (or move) the bridge plate. Then I'll back off about 1/8 turn.

Would it make sense to use the same technique with the 2-point system?


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:35 pm
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+1 Andybighair


Fender said you must have 1/8" gap on the rear of the bridge.

I read that and I have the picture of the 2 point tremolo in my Fender Owner's manual for guitars and basses. page 12.

This what they said under the picture;

For guitar equiped with tremolo
Adjust the bridge angle,using the two claw screws in the back cavity of the guitar, to the desired angle. (Fender recommendes approximately 1/8" of gap at the rear of the bridge. The bridge may be adjusted, however, to accomodate your playing needs. If you prefer to set the bridge flush with the body, DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN THE TWO CLAW SCREW. Set the tension of the springs to equal the tesion of the strings, while the bridge is rsting on the body.

I hope it help you


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stratele52 wrote:
+1 Andybighair


Fender said you must have 1/8" gap on the rear of the bridge.

I read that and I have the picture of the 2 point tremolo in my Fender Owner's manual for guitars and basses. page 12.

This what they said under the picture;

For guitar equiped with tremolo
Adjust the bridge angle,using the two claw screws in the back cavity of the guitar, to the desired angle. (Fender recommendes approximately 1/8" of gap at the rear of the bridge. The bridge may be adjusted, however, to accomodate your playing needs. If you prefer to set the bridge flush with the body, DO NOT OVER-TIGHTEN THE TWO CLAW SCREW. Set the tension of the springs to equal the tesion of the strings, while the bridge is rsting on the body.

I hope it help you


Right, all my strats have exactly 1/8" at the back of the bridge plate.

I'm asking about the technique and parameters used to adjust the height of the two front pivot screws on a Fender two-point synchronized tremolo bridge plate.


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Strataholic wrote:
Thanks for all the great info!

The technique I use to set the height of the six bridge plate screws for the vintage 6-point bridge is easy and makes sense to me. with all the tension off the bridge plate (no strings or trem springs attached), I'll turn each screw head until it just starts to lift (or move) the bridge plate. Then I'll back off about 1/8 turn.

Would it make sense to use the same technique with the 2-point system?


Yes to all of that. :)

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Strataholic wrote:
I'm not trying to be a wise guy but... it's safe to assume that no one on this forum has a clue as to the correct adjustment at these two critical points? Or... perhaps it doesn't really matter what the height is so long as they are not adjusted too low?

what's the real deal here?


Can't help you. Looks like your right!

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From factory they seem to have the bridge sitting with a slight gap off the body which is about 1/64 when flush.
Not overly complicated. As you can see from the picture it sits lower than the first ply of the pick guard which is 1/32.

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I suggest you set the height of the pins where you want them for optimal use of the trem and then set up the rest of the action around that parameter. The micro-tilt may come in handy if you choose to raise the trem significantly for lots of up-yank-ability.
(assuming your guitar is equipped with micro-tilt)

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Look at the top of the web page. There is a section called, "Support." Look in the section that says, "Set up guide." It will help you set up the trem. Also your Strat should have come with an owner's manual. It will have the same information.

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