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I am learning a lot about how finish a guitar body -- that's for sure!

The crazy thing about the grain filling is you think you got the whole thing saturated in filler, but you don't know until you get some lacquer over the the top of it. The good news is most of the body looks like a sheet of glass (at least the front). I sprayed almost an entire can of sealer on this thing. Still some small sections have some deep grain showing thru. Here's photos of some of the open grains ---

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Look like I need to go back and fill the odd patches and seal it yet again... :roll:

Man, I really want to spray this body w/vintage blonde, already...

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Hi Kozy: at least you are performing a massive public service by demonstrating step by painful step one of the main reasons Fender early on felt that alder might be a nice wood to make guitars out of, as well as ash. No grain filling with alder...

You're doing fine, man. A few weeks from now - and ever after - you'll be so glad you put in the effort.

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Kozy, the Strat continues to look great. Grain filling looks to be a killer chore. Keep up the great work.

As our friend Ceri says, you'll really be glad you did things right!

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keep on keeping on! Some of the bodies I have painted,. I would hate to go public with! I have has so many problems from "fish eyes" (contamination) to runs to thin spots after I was finished! Or worse yet, buffing through the finish after your all done and let the paint cure for 2 weeks!

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Thanks for the words of encouragement, everyone!

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Xhefri wrote:
keep on keeping on! Some of the bodies I have painted,. I would hate to go public with! I have has so many problems from "fish eyes" (contamination) to runs to thin spots after I was finished! Or worse yet, buffing through the finish after your all done and let the paint cure for 2 weeks!


2 weeks is extremely optimistic to me, with a home finish. I err on the side of caution, at a minimum of 30 days when spraying Nitrocellulose.


Kozy it is quite alright to grainfill where you are right now. In fact a lot of people like to do a wash coat of lacquer or sealer before grain filling. That way if you use a pigment in your filler, it won't leech into the wood, so if you ever decide to refinish you won't have to deal with stained wood.

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Ya getting there Koz.

It just takes time and patience. I didnt use any grainfiller when I built my axe but thats the difference between a "beater that will work" and a "brilliantly buffed butterscotch beauty". I'm looking forward to seeing the latter in this thread :)

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Did a bit more sanding -- looks pretty good. Just a couple spots require a small amount of filler. Then more sealer...


For anyone interested, I am embarking on a Fender project of another kind. I've stumbled on to a mid-60's Band Master head. This one needs a bunch of work. Gonna make this my Winter project...

Got a thread started already...

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... 954#531954

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Hey Kozy, should I add this very exciting new prject to The Nutter's Build Thread Listing?
Can do if you want. ;-) surely wouldn't hurt to finally get an amp restoration thread in there!

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Hey Koz, how's it coming?

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Hey Koz, how's it coming?


Moving slow these days. Job's got me working overtime this month. Plus it's been cold and rainy. Applied some more sanding sealer on a day when it was too cold out in the garage, and it behaved erratically. Need to go back and sand the area smooth again :(

Planning to set up a space heater in my work space this weekend, and giving it another try.

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Hi Kozy!

I totally sympathise with you on the work front. My job has changed dramatically over the passed three months and long hours can take their toll.

If it helps, there were plenty of times where I could have done work on my Strat but wasn't in the mood for it. Don't worry about how long your build takes. Just make sure when you do, do work on it that you enjoy yourself. :wink:

Now I'm off to read about your amp project! Sounds cool!

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Hi Kozy!

I totally sympathise with you on the work front. My job has changed dramatically over the passed three months and long hours can take their toll.

If it helps, there were plenty of times where I could have done work on my Strat but wasn't in the mood for it. Don't worry about how long your build takes. Just make sure when you do, do work on it that you enjoy yourself. :wink:

Now I'm off to read about your amp project! Sounds cool!

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Thanks Andy! It looks like I may have some improved weather during some time off from work next month. I think I can make some headway, then...

The amp is a jewel. I've cleaned it up a bit -- just a decent wipe down and tighening of the screws. Patched up the broken valence and added black grill cloth to match the cab. I'll tell you -- this amp sounds like a dream. It's tubey-crisp with a pitch of growl. I just need to get it in for a cable upgrade and a complete check-up on the electrical before I take it out.

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Hi Kozy

If it OK with you, have a few questions about how to apply a decal on to my headstock.

Did you put the decal straight on to the “unfinished” head stock or was there a sealer coat or a first lacquer coat on there first? And did it leave any kind of water mark?

I've made a decal but I'm in two minds as to whether or not to put it on mine...

Cheers! :D

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Andybighair wrote:
Hi Kozy

If it OK with you, have a few questions about how to apply a decal on to my headstock.

Did you put the decal straight on to the “unfinished” head stock or was there a sealer coat or a first lacquer coat on there first? And did it leave any kind of water mark?

I've made a decal but I'm in two minds as to whether or not to put it on mine...

Cheers! :D

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Andy,

Glad I can help you for once :wink: ..

I applied sanding sealer (2-3 mist coats) first to the neck. I wanted it smooth so I lightly sanded and steel wooled the headstock, then applied the decal (it took a couple tries to get it just right so make sure you have spare decals). I applied the neck tint over the decal and about multiple coats of lacquer over all of that.

Once the decal dried for a few days it was nicely secured to the headstock. With the neck tint application the decal "settled" even further on the wood. With the lacquering, you'd be best served to mist on the first couple coats and let it cure between few good hours and overnight, so the decal does not raise. The next day mist 1-2 coat of lacquer waiting an hour between coats. Further on, apply 1-2 coats each thicker than the last. With that, wait overnight for your last coat, which should be applied glossy. In the end you should have applied 6-8 lacquer coats

Good luck -- it should go well. Let us all see how it winds up :)

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