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... gotta say the fine gents who make this forum the pleasure to frequent come out with A+ for backing you up and the unending helpfull advice freely given is what makes all of these build threads so fantastic to read.


Truer words have not been spoken. I could not endeavor into this project without the help of this fine group!

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there's just something about rubbing oil on a nude body... :D

I'm gonna run this line by my wife.... :wink:

:lol:

Oooh, I almost forgot. Randel says "Hi Magpie!" :D

A fine looking beast you have there Kozy!

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Thanks brother Andy!

Got some work in today. Did a file-to-fit on the pick guard -- now it slots right in perfectly. Also a half dozen coats of sanding sealer. Looks good.

I'll post some photos later... 8)

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I hung the body from my kids swing set with coat hangers. It was a beautiful day with a little breeze. I basically used a can of the spray sanding sealer on this first go-round...

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I start sanding later in the week. I estimate I'll need at least a 2nd can of sealer, if not more.

It's moving along :D

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Hi Kozy!

Lov'in your spray jig! That totally gets the Big Hairy seal of approval :lol:

Looking good!

And congrats on getting your first pick (though I'm 26 posts late on that one!) :D

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Okay and alright! I went and ordered my finishing supplies from ReRanch -- this is what I got:

-- Neck Amber (for the neck)
-- Fender Blonde (For the body)

I'm planning to use Deft Spray-On Gloss Laquer as the top coats for both the neck and body :)

Also, I ordered a different "MIM" vintage style bridge with all steel parts and a brass trem block from Guitar Fetish.

And -- I ordered the laser decal paper for my FrankenStein-O-Caster logo. My plan is to apply a coat of clear laquer to the neck before I lay down the decal, apply a mist of neck amber over that, clear laquer and then, as necessary, neck amber mist layers until I acheive the vintage look I want, and finally clear laquer over that.

...Oh boy -- This thing's gonna become a guitar soon! :D

Yippee!

Thanks everybody,
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Got some sanding work in yesterday evening. 220 grit followed by 320. Smoothing out quite nice. The pores are getting filled but I'm betting the body would benefit from another few coats of the sealer.

Wondering? Should I be looking for all the pores to be completely filled before I venture into the next finish coat? Or is it OK to have a few open grains...

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Kozy,

The build is looking great so far! You're in great hands getting so much advice from the crew here on the forum. I have not had much to add to the discussion as I am a rank amateur compared to some here.

I will say that while I am very satisfied with my build, you can some evidence of the repairs on the back of the guitar through the finish. I'll post a pic or two after work showing the issues. Having a nice new body to work with is definitely preferable. Keep up the awesome work.

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Kozy,

The build is looking great so far! You're in great hands getting so much advice from the crew here on the forum. I have not had much to add to the discussion as I am a rank amateur compared to some here.

I will say that while I am very satisfied with my build, you can some evidence of the repairs on the back of the guitar through the finish. I'll post a pic or two after work showing the issues. Having a nice new body to work with is definitely preferable. Keep up the awesome work.


Thanks Kong!

I would not say you're a rank amatuer by any means. In fact you have some pretty big stones diving into that project the way you did. That trem cavity alone puts you on par with the big shooters here. Looking forward to seeing the new photos.

Now that I'm getting close to applying the final finish on my project, I know what everybody means about taking it slow. I think another can of sanding sealer should get the job done. Later on I'll post some photos of my recent progress...

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Wondering? Should I be looking for all the pores to be completely filled before I venture into the next finish coat? Or is it OK to have a few open grains...

G'day Kozy: the answer is emphatically yes. You should fill all the pores and achieve a perfectly flat surface everywhere on the guitar before proceeding. That is the sole purpose of the sanding sealer, and it will save you time, work and cost at the top coat stage if you do it this way.

Then you can just spray about five or six very thin coats of top lacquer, much of which will be lost during the final buffing. By this method you get the thinnest possible lacquer in total - and a thin finish is one of the holy grails of guitar lacquering.

So just go on spraying and sanding, spraying and sanding the sealer layer till it is absolutely perfect! :)

BTW: I love your system for suspending the body for spraying. That may be the coolest setup yet! 8)

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Wondering? Should I be looking for all the pores to be completely filled before I venture into the next finish coat? Or is it OK to have a few open grains...

G'day Kozy: the answer is emphatically yes. You should fill all the pores and achieve a perfectly flat surface everywhere on the guitar before proceeding. That is the sole purpose of the sanding sealer, and it will save you time, work and cost at the top coat stage if you do it this way.

Then you can just spray about five or six very thin coats of top lacquer, much of which will be lost during the final buffing. By this method you get the thinnest possible lacquer in total - and a thin finish is one of the holy grails of guitar lacquering.

So just go on spraying and sanding, spraying and sanding the sealer layer till it is absolutely perfect! :)

BTW: I love your system for suspending the body for spraying. That may be the coolest setup yet! 8)

Cheers - C


Thanks Ceri on all counts!

You guys on this forum are the coolest. When eveybody is done with their build projects we need to figure out a way to get us all together for an open jam.

Might I suggest Motown as the gathering place. :D

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...When eveybody is done with their build projects we need to figure out a way to get us all together for an open jam.

Might I suggest Motown as the gathering place. :D


I'll buy the beer, and fire up the amps and drums... 8)

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Well I guess it wouldn't be a do it yerself'er without a little drama :shock:


I went to put the new tremolo assembly on just to check it for position, etc. Turns out the positioning of this new unit is not going to work with my originally drilled bridge holes. It's not what you think -- the holes align fine from side to side (e-saddle to E-saddle). But looking from the below the waist of the guitar I have this big open gap at the trem hole (which I did not notice before... :cry: )

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Well needless to say this bummed me out. So I proceeded to try every way to Tuesday to see how this could all go together in it's current form. With the new trem, I adjusted the saddles as far forward as I could and placed it back on the bridge. Did some key measurements while making sure ALL the trem routing were covered by metal from the trem assembly. This is what I got:

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With this new position. as you can see the already drilled holes are off by approx. the width of half a hole -- a 16th of an inch or 1.5mm (...a litlle bit of Maggs hair got caught on the saddles .. :) )... But as a good and important sign, that open gap on the trem cavity has closed up....

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So I conferred with woodworking guru Kozy Sr. (my pop) and decided to man up and... eeek :shock: fill the originally drilled screw holes with dowels.


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Yeah -- it's kinda sucks but a little setback is keeping me honest on this project I suppose. You know the old saying -- "You gotta burn to learn"

So, in a few days I'll chisel away the excess dowel and sand the area smooth. Hopefully by the weekend I will have the new bridge holes drilled. Then I can pick up where I left off with the finish work..

Kozy

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You know the old saying -- "You gotta burn to learn"


Seems that's what Niki said to Ceri! Looking to you for the same outcome :wink:

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Hi Kozy,

No biggy buddy! These things happen (to me often :wink: ).

Looks like you've done a fine job with the dowels. I have every confidence that you'll sort that out without any further issues.
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...a litlle bit of Maggs hair got caught on the saddles..

I see Randels not the only Cat that has a thing for strats!
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...When eveybody is done with their build projects we need to figure out a way to get us all together for an open jam.

Might I suggest Motown as the gathering place. :D

I'll buy the beer, and fire up the amps and drums... 8)

Hope this is Ok with you Kozy mate, but after trying out some American alcoholic beverages recently, I believe it would best for all involved if I brought the beer :lol: :D

Keep up the good work :D

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