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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:40 pm
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ive never heard of a Schallers lock failing.
maybe its just me but why fix something that isnt broken?


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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:14 am
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way cool jr wrote:
ive never heard of a Schallers lock failing.
maybe its just me but why fix something that isnt broken?


I was offering my humble advice to the original poster of this thread, who was looking for opinions on strap locks in general. I never suggested that anyone should change anything.

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davemercier wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
ive never heard of a Schallers lock failing.
maybe its just me but why fix something that isnt broken?


I was offering my humble advice to the original poster of this thread, who was looking for opinions on strap locks in general. I never suggested that anyone should change anything.


sorry dave, i totally misunderstood.


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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:15 am
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way cool jr wrote:
davemercier wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
ive never heard of a Schallers lock failing.
maybe its just me but why fix something that isnt broken?


I was offering my humble advice to the original poster of this thread, who was looking for opinions on strap locks in general. I never suggested that anyone should change anything.


sorry dave, i totally misunderstood.


Wow, Hey there way cool jr, there's no need to apologize, i hope i didn't sound too bent out of shape when i answered you. I figured you might not have seen all of the posts in this thread, i get confused a lot of the time that way! Plus, i really like the ernies, and that's just my opinion, after installing them. I have never used any of the other brands, so there may be things about any of the others that are great in use. :wink:

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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:11 am
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dave its cool man.
i just didnt get what you were saying.
i have the schallers on all my fiddles.
i like them. i just misunderstood what you were saying.
hey that happens a bit on forums ya know lol?
i belong to a saltwater aquarium forum,
ive seen that whole place go to h3ll over
someone misreading a post. man was it funny too.


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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:45 pm
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Yeah, we peoples can get Inta a real mess over some wrong thing said, or even just thought that it was said. Salwater eh? The best i ever did as far as colorful fish was an african cichlid tank. Every once in a while i get the urge to grab another tank and do it up proud again. I was just searching craiglst two days ago for aquriums, Sweet deals on there! :wink:

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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:13 pm
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yeah i have several.
120 reef, 45 reef, 55 cichlid, 30 cichlid,
a 10, a 40, a 17 reef coral frag tank.
im slightly addicted. if ya have any questions i can help.


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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:18 pm
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davemercier wrote:
rkreisher wrote:
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That's really interesting, what is it exactly about the dunlops that you prefer then?


Push button/ pull release, all metal/no plastic, and if I forget my strap (not that ever had), I can buy a cheepie Strap for the practice session and it slips over the strap button as just as secure as standard strap button.

Unlike Schallers that are a Pull/slip release. The guitar strap button is too small for me to feel comfortable playing with a strap hooked onto them (should I ever forget my strap at home).

The concept of the Ernie Ball Strap locks is similar to the Dunlops, but the button looks easier to accidently push for an unintended release. Also the part that mounts onto the guitar looks like a similar design to the Schallers...I would not feel comfortable hooking a strap onto it in a pinch.


I understand your concern rkreisher, but the buttons mounted on the guitar are much bigger than you believe. they are actually, even more secure than standard strap buttons and schallers etc, because they have a squared off lip where the strap hole would have to stretch over, as opposed to the taper on the standard buttons. And as i explained earlier, the strap lock part, has two buttons, one on each side of the lock, that have to be squeezed together at the same time to release the lock, eliminating any possiblity of a bump against the locks causing an accidental release. Plus, the ernie balls have the lowest, roundest, and widest tops on the locks, greatly reducing the danger of the strap locks dinging up the guitar. If you search youtube under ernie ball strap lock installation, you'll see that the buttons that the locks connect to are the perfect size, and very secure. Plus, they are rated at 600 pounds! :wink:



Thanks Dave...I may have to look into buying some for my next guitar and see how they work first hand.

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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:11 pm
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The Older Schaller Strap Locks were just like the ones Fender makes now. There is a price difference between the 2 items. Fender are half the price of the Schaller on a common web site. Fender has 2 different strap locks listed and they both look the same.
With the Fender locks you have to make sure the screws on the strap are secured tight.
The Schaller are constructed a bit different than they used to be. I will post as many photos as possible. I have experienced losing a screw on the straps, and next to impossible to find a replacement. (still looking) Schaller used to sell replacement kits, but these seem to be for dealers, since they have multiple parts for the strap locks, and expensive for the kit. Also Fender makes a washer, which seems to work too, once you put it on, not easy to remove the strap but for $3 to $4 very reasonable to protect that guitar or bass. I was at a concert last year, and a guess guitar player with the Richie Furray Band (Poco, Buffalo Springfield) dropped his guitar due to no strap locks. The new Schaller have a larger screw button for the strap part and set screw. The Fender style have the older flat screw. Also the new Schaller have a larger set screw diameter for the guitar install. The Fender uses the same screw as the original strap locks to the body of the guitar.


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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:44 am
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Joelski wrote:
The only worry I have is the strap gremlin that pulls the buttons out on my Schallers and bumps the guitar up slightly, thus allowing the guitar to crash to the floor. No idea how I manage!

I was wondering about this very issue.
This is how the Fender/Schaller strap locks are fitted to the strap.

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The lock has the same orientation at either end, so the lock makes a very effective sling.
You could destroy the sprung locking mechanism and the guitar still won't fall to the ground.
Note that the washers are in place - if the washer isn't fitted you're asking for disaster.

My son has no complaints with the Schaller system on his Les Paul Junior either.

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