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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:28 pm
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lol unbelieveable.
half the early delta recording sounded like garbage,
even though they used studio gear to record with.
these people had opportunity to record because of their
playing ability not because of their tone.

most amazingly though is your jumping on folks
playing on gear they cant afford?
have you ever played on gear you couldnt afford?


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:44 pm
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I would really like to hear Gilmour try to get good tone out of my G-Dec 15.I swear there isnt a good tone in there to be had.But I am sure he would sound alot better than me.


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:46 pm
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budglo wrote:
I would really like to hear Gilmour try to get good tone out of my G-Dec 15.I swear there isnt a good tone in there to be had.But I am sure he would sound alot better than me.



lol thats funny. i was just looking up reviews on that amp
on youtube as this came across.


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:50 pm
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Its an ok tool for private practicing, but it sounds like crap,make no mistake about it.And EJ would sound like crap thru it too,just a different brand of crap.


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:03 pm
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budglo wrote:
Its an ok tool for private practicing, but it sounds like crap,make no mistake about it.And EJ would sound like crap thru it too,just a different brand of crap.


after listening on youtube, it does sound like its lacking,
but i cant put my finger on where.
thing is, its a great step forward, moving in the right direction
anyways, for that type of amp.


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:44 pm
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While I agree that technique does affect tone, tone isn’t ALL about technique. In my view, all of the artists mentioned have different tones on different recordings and they have different tones in different eras.

So generally the same technique, but different tones due to the gear and how that gear affects how they play (which it will)
When someone asks how to get “so and so’s” tone, I have to ask specifically which recording and often which part of the song.

A lot of this argument comes down to your definition of tone and there are no clear lines between tone and technique because each influences the other.

And just because someone is recognizable no matter what gear they play doesn’t (in my mind at least) mean they have the same consistent “Tone”

Discovering how someone gets a particular sound is a part of learning. This goes for both tone and technique. It doesn't mean that you want to just be imitator.


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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:45 am
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I often think of tone in terms of color. I might try to paint something that Picasso did and no matter how close I try to get to his style etc, I always end up adding a little of my own color here and there which I find satisfies me. (Picasso would have nightmares if he saw what I was doing..lol) There again, I also prefer to create and paint my own pictures (landscapes, etc) and that way I can add any color I want.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that tone is like color and if I put a Fender Strat with a '65 Deluxe Reverb I'm gonna get a particular tone\color. Or, if I take a Gibson SG '61 Reissue and put it with that same '65 Deluxe Reverb, I'm gonna get a totally different tonal texture or color. Furthermore, by throwing a few effects in the mix, I'll come up with again another color\tone, then even by puting some different amps together my tone\color will change again.

Thus, color and tone can enliven or emphasize the story we are trying to create and tell.

That's the way I look at tone anyway!


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Post subject: Re: Getting a guitarist's "Sound."
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:36 am
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paris wrote:
I see posts about getting a certain player's sound all the time. I figured that I would put my 5 cents worth on the subject.

This is one player's opinion and should not be taken as the gospel word. Please feel free to add or dispute anything written here. I welcome and love other people's ideas.

There are 3 things that effect your tone and sound:

1. The guitar. What kind of guitar you have and how is the guitar set up? Both players played Strats for the most part. Rosewood necks sound different than maple necks. SRV used big thick strings and tuned his guitar half a step down to "Eb." Everything about the construction the guitar changes something.
You can also get Texas Specials Strat Pickups. Also Use the tone knobs that come with the guitar.

2. The Amplifier. SRV had many amps all chained together. I use a Peavey Delta Blues. It has a big old 16" speaker. I really like it. When you buy an amp bring your guitar with you. When buying a guitar use the amp you use at home. Amps play a big part in how you sound.

3. The last thing, and something you have little control over, is the way you play. We aren't Eric Clapton, Hendrex or SRV. Each person's attack is different. How you strike the strings; how you bend a note; how you do vibrato and how you phrase your playing effects everything.
I guarantee you that if you saw Eric Clapton playing in front of you and he stopped; handed you his guitar, you would sound different than him. You'd wonder why, too. A player's touch is unique to them and hard to mimic perfectly. If you list to SRV and Hendrix, you might surprised to find that they actually sound different. Watch how these guys play. In my opinion, no other guitar brings out a person playing style and sound like Fender Stratocaster

In the end you will sound like you. Instead of trying to sound like someone else, hone your sound. I tell you, no one sounds like me and I like it that way.

I hope this helps.

Paris


SRV technique makes up most of his sound. Go to Steviesnacks.com, that guy knows his stuff and he's all about SRV sound. Lots of demo's on gear too, plus free lessons on playing SRV.... Start there.... If it sounds good to you, then its good enough!

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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:11 pm
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yeah tony is a good player/teacher. have you bought any of his lessons yet?


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