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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:49 pm
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I was reading The Fender Stratocaster book and it has the phrase Fender Stratocaster Electric Spanish Guitar. What do they mean by spanish guitar? Just never heard it referred to like that.


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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:13 am
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The guitar traces its origin to Spain. A search will come up with a lot of history on the origin of the guitar. Here is one example:


http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... f_the.html

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Spanish Style was the designation Gibson, and others gave to 6 string guitars that were based on the design of the classical guitar.

that designation was used because guitar makers also had Hawaiian, or lap steel guitars.

Electric probably doesn't need much explanation :wink:

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:48 am
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For the Gibson ES-335 etc the ES stands for electric spanish.


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Back in the days when guys were first amplifying acoustic guitars,I've read they were sometimes referred to as "electrified guitar",when the guitars made by Fender and Gibson and others with pickups installed came along they were called "electric guitars".
Like was mentioned,most were called Spanish Guitars back then.
Terms like that show our age.


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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:01 am
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Yeah "Spanish guitar" is an archiac term. I assumed it was sometime in the 50's that people just started calling them "guitars" when they became popular as a lead instrument and the lap steel/Hawaiian, tenor, and pedal steel guitars fell out of favor.

When I hear "Spanish guitar", I always think it's something Mr. Burns from The Simpson's would say. "You there minstrel, manipulate the sinews of that Electric Spanish Guitar through your thermionic valve amplification device posthaste while I wait for my autogyro to Siam".

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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:48 am
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ChrisNJ wrote:
For the Gibson ES-335 etc the ES stands for electric spanish.

Exactly, and that is true for all the Gibson ES-xxx guitars. To me, an ES (elctric Spanish) means a fully hollow body electric guitar (as opposed to a semi-hollow like a Thinline or an electrified acoustic)

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Remember that Fender's first electric instruments were steel ("Hawaiian") guitars. The term "Spanish" guitar differentiates the instrument you hold from the one you play in your lap.

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You are right russianracehorse.

In the begening they are 2 king of guitar ; hawaiin, the one you play on your lab and the acoustic one made in Spain.

All modern guitar came from the Spanish one.

And can we say that the hawaiin is noe the pedal steel guitar use in country ?


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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:53 am
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01GT eibach wrote:
ChrisNJ wrote:
For the Gibson ES-335 etc the ES stands for electric spanish.

Exactly, and that is true for all the Gibson ES-xxx guitars. To me, an ES (elctric Spanish) means a fully hollow body electric guitar (as opposed to a semi-hollow like a Thinline or an electrified acoustic)



Alot of the 33# are semi hollow...a 339 or 335 for instance are semi hollow...

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ES don't need to be full hollow body, but just to have the look of acoustic guitar (spanish)


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So then. With gibson having their ES series guitars, are we then with Fender talking about their Coronado Series or possibly their James D'Aquisto Signature models???

I did read this about Fender using "ES": A 2-letter paint code ("ES" in this case) was sometimes used during the CBS era to tell the paint booth this body was to be sprayed a custom color. Note this is different than a 4-digit number code or 3-letter code (often reflecting a factory refin). "ES" means "Entered Special" which was a special order for a particular store, artist, or for Fender's use at the NAMM show. Fender did not use the "ES" stamp for all custom color bodies during the CBS era, but just for very special orders, customers or special occasions. If you look at the image below you will see ES stamped into the wood by the route, on this 1966 Strat.

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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:47 am
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The naming has its sense. The classical guitar and the spanish guitar are differents instruments. While tha classical is what we know as "concert" guitar, the spanish has different dimensions of the body and usually simple tuners.

In the "concert" range there are various sizes of the body, and generally speaking they are bigger than the spanish. So, the obvious choice to make an electrified version was the spanish body in terms of comfort and playability.
Keep in mind that the "concert" is normally built to be played seated, while the smaller body of the spanish allows to play it even walking.

The flamenco guitar is just s spanish guitar with another choice of woods, looking for a different vibe.

For example, in Spain you can buy a decent spanish guitar for 60 to 100 $, but if you look for a concert guitar, you must prepare a bloody amount of money.

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