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ahh I just did a search on self-tuning fridges. Silly me. :?

No, I fear the times where you could get Fret-King parts are lost and gone. And buying a Wilkinson guitar just to extract the bridge might in some cultures be called decadent. Shame. I would agree to having one of those.

Niki, if you want a single output per string you should go for a hexaphonic pickup. They are quite versatile. I recently saw a demo by roland endorsee Gundy Keller who also does quite a bit of developing for them, and to be honest they sound so much like a good magnetic pickup because they are magnetic pickups! They don't appeal to the fans of the classic look, but theoretically you could put six volume pots or switches or whatever you fancy and mould your own sound directly onboard the guit.

Obviously Roland intend for you to buy one of their GK systems but the hex pup has been around for some time, so I learnt. Quite an entertaining chap and a nice guy.

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There was this too...

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You can see why that didn't catch on can't you.

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You can see why that didn't catch on can't you.

Are you kidding? I think that's spacey! :D

Another approach would be to design a pickup that is held in the fretting hand, like a bottleneck. That way you have the ultimate slide guitar...

...Hey, the Ebow must have seemed pretty flippin' daft when the guy first spoke his idea out loud. :lol:

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Ever plugged a guitar in then hovered a battery drill over the pickups and pressed the trigger?

You can get some fierce sounds that way, especialy with a pressure sensetive trigger. Vary the speed of the drill whilst increasing and decreasing the distance from the pickups.

Thats spacey.

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Ever plugged a guitar in then hovered a battery drill over the pickups and pressed the trigger?

No, I haven't. But now I've GOT to know - where's my Black & Decker? :D :D :D

BTW: my wife's office is just round the corner from the Old Vic theatre. Kevin Spacey is often to be seen in the local coffee shop: I must engineer a meeting and ask him his views on pickup positioning. I'm sure he'll have good things to say...

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Well obviously Kevin must be the leading know it all on pickup placement. Especially the optimum distance between the pole pieces and the strings. Though I reckon he'd be very good at placement along the string path too.

I heard he's good at arranging offices to give maximum efficiency.
Also he's the bee's knee's at assessing properties and their prices based on cubic volume.
Where he really excels though is astrology.

So perhaps you could get him to rearrange the missus offices, quantify your grounds and tell you who's going to win the 3:30 at Chepstow. Whilst doing it, he could set the pickups on your strat. Bet he doesn't need a couple of coins to measure the distances.

All in all that could be a very profitable meeting if I'm right. Better have your running shoes on though if I'm wrong.

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nikininja wrote:
You can see why that didn't catch on can't you.

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looks similar to it's sister ship:

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Might be useful when running from Kevin, Ceri... give it a think! 8)

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While you guys are on a thinking outside the box sorta thing what about a small rotisserie of pickups, the touch of a button could have ever rotating pickups

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalo ... C8Q8wIwAg#

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Play some smoking riffs and cook your dinner at the same time.

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Play some smoking riffs and cook your dinner at the same time.


Titter ye not, I say titter ye not, oh alright titter away

Your drill post caught my eye Nik, small rotating barrel with say four different polarity blade pickups around it spinning away, what kinda crazy sound would come from that.

this time next year we'll all be millionaires :)

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Ceri wrote:
nikininja wrote:
Ever plugged a guitar in then hovered a battery drill over the pickups and pressed the trigger?

No, I haven't. But now I've GOT to know - where's my Black & Decker? :D :D :D

In the link below at about 6:20 min in Paul Gilbert does just that. He even went the extra mile and attached three picks to the drill.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3on69 ... o-live_fun

What a trooper! :D

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Andy I saw him do that years back in the early 90's. It always amazed me that he didn't get the spaceship feedback that Reeves Gabriels loved so much.

You have to be real carefull because you've a motor made from a electromagnet (the drill) next to another kind of electromagnet (the pickup).

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Dunno how you'd play and cook the chicken at the same time without performing some kind of 21st century rendition of EXP at the same time.

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nikininja wrote:
Play some smoking riffs and cook your dinner at the same time.


Titter ye not, I say titter ye not, oh alright titter away

Your drill post caught my eye Nik, small rotating barrel with say four different polarity blade pickups around it spinning away, what kinda crazy sound would come from that.

this time next year we'll all be millionaires :)

shall I get my coat


Ha! I've expected the unexpected from you guys!

Make it a white coat.
Next time this year you guys will be in insane asylum...or should be. :wink:

No wait! You're in the Fender Forums..so it would be redundant.

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ripitup555 wrote:
While you guys are on a thinking outside the box sorta thing what about a small rotisserie of pickups, the touch of a button could have ever rotating pickups...

Hey ripitup: I LIKE your mind! I'll be looking at that doner spit thingie a whole new way next time I'm in the kebab shop. 8)

Now on the basis we're just vamping till ready (i.e. when Andy and his Uncle/Brother [scary genes!] hit the studio and give us some sounds), anyone feel like talking pickups with me? Forum user Martian always says he doesn't bother building pickups simply because there's already so many good ones to choose from out there, and I've always felt the same way.

Yet in an email The Nutter told me not to sweat this idea of moveable pickups too much - so naturally that is exactly what I'm doing! :lol:

Where we need to start is a new design of single coil pickup that is wide but very shallow indeed, so's it can fit comfortably between the strings and the face of a non-routed guitar body. I need help from the electronics gurus here: how physically wide would we need to make that pickup to have around a 7k output and yet only be about 4-5 mm deep including the flatwork and cover? Would that shallowness and width change the tonal qualities - something like a P90 but more so, I'm imagining?

Where would we get polepieces short enough - could we make our own? Could we take half the windings in one direction and half in the other, to make a sort of stacked hum-cancelling single coil?

Am I barking mad to even be thinking of this stuff?

BTW: the manufacture of custom shaped covers and innards - that part of it I think I'm comfortably up for. I've got ideas about that. It's the electronics my brain ain't good at.

Gentlemen, your thoughts - even if they're just; "Don't be so silly, Ceri". :D

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