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Post subject: '87 American Standard Strat with Stock Sperzels???
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:03 am
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New to the boards here, not new to Strats though. I have 17 guitars six of them mid 1980's American Strats, been messing with them for a few years now.

I have recently found one that has me scratching my head though and thought I would mention here because there aint nothing out there that I can find on it.

It has all the appointments of an E4/1987 American Standard-22 frets, two pivot bridge, standard pickups (not Lace Sensors). It is 7UP Green. The odd thing is it has original Sperzel tuners, standard nut , NO string trees.

No mods on this guitar at all or that I can tell.

It seems I recall seeing one on Ebay a couple years ago and someone finally said it was an early Deluxe American Standard Strat, but not sure.

Was this an option before the Strat Plus?

I'd post a pic but can't seem to get the html to turn on or how to work this message board, i'll get that though...

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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:43 am
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Bwfroe the Plus line, there were a short lived line of strats that sported all of the American Standard Specs, yet had Gold Lace Sensors. They were very limited and are quite collectable to strat plus purists. I have seen a white one recently pop up down here in New Zealand...

you need to post the img code up mate (I use photobucket) in order to post pictures :)

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Post subject: Re: '87 American Standard Strat with Stock Sperzels???
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:59 am
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stevenga wrote:

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Your HTML isn't working because you wrote the wrong end tag.

You need

[img]whatever%20the%20picture%20URL%20is[/img] <---Minus the spaces of course

Welcome to the forums. From one newbie to another.
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Post subject: Re: '87 American Standard Strat with Stock Sperzels???
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:21 am
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mullyman wrote:
Welcome to the forums. From one newbie to another.
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Though one of the nice things on this Forum is nobody seems to care about that "newbie" thing. Round here we're all as good as our last - or first - post.

And Mully, your post with the pic of you shaking hands with that no-name kid guitarist - that was a good one! :D

To stevenga: there's a Forum user round here by the name of Xhefri who is a total expert on the Strat Plus. If he doesn't see this thread and give you an answer in a while one of us will direct you to his website so's you can ask him in person and get a conclusive answer.

But we'll wait and see if a reply appears here first, so's we can all see...

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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:08 am
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I usually use flikr for image host, doesnt seem to work here no matter what html I use, signed up to photobucket, now it won't let me edit my post....

hope this shows up, thank for the responses though....


Oh and I am familiar with the Xhefri site, but don't see this model there.

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Post subject: 87 strat pluss deluxe
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:48 am
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been doing a little on line research, there are varried modeles of strat pluss deluxe, mine is the real thing, 3 gold lace sensor p/u,sperzel tuners, candy apple red,steel roller nut & all white pick guard, just google it & you'll find out like I did there's a lot to be said.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:47 am
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I've seen that pic before. Maybe the atlanta Craigslist? Do you live in the Atlanta area?


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:53 am
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sparky

Yeah, I've looked everywhere. I think the mistake is thinking this is a variant of the Strat Plus, I think it is a variant of the American Standard.

A custom order perhaps?

I would say the tuners were after market, but they are the old Sperzels and the fact the headstock has no string trees says to me the tuners are original.

An early American Standard with stock Sperzels is what it looks like to me,

Question is did the Fender People have a special name for this?


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:16 pm
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Steve it very well could be a variant or as some people call a "WTF" IT MATTERS NOT, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck & quakes like a duck, it must be a duck, I bought my SPD second hand in the early to mid 90's for low dollars, now I'm thinking the seller who was my boss at the time didn't realize that in time his loss was my gain, if you check around you don't see many 87 strat pluss deluxe on the market, if the serial # starts with an E, E= EIGHTYS N=NINTEYS & Z=2000


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:29 pm
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Sparky,

It's an E4...anytime you see an E4 Strat with 22 frets it is usually an '87.
I have had a few E4's that were '88's and you do see some late E4's from '86 as well.
I also have two early 1987 E3 American Standards (22 frets ect.) Those seem to always have these great glossy necks. They switched to satin finish necks sometime in '87 .

Like I said, I have seen this , stock sperzel deal just a couple of times on early American Standards.


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:43 pm
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Steve it is a wonder, must be a cutom shop order, but it has not lace sensor pickups, it has a standard nut, it has not string trees, it's a freak it's a super freak

sparky


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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:58 pm
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sparky,

We have a name! The Fender American Standard Super Freak Strat!


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I've seen that pic before. Maybe the atlanta Craigslist? Do you live in the Atlanta area?


Nevermind I found it.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/msg/1724137307.html


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I've seen that pic before. Maybe the atlanta Craigslist? Do you live in the Atlanta area?


Nevermind I found it.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/msg/1724137307.html

Brilliant - I always respect an observant pair of eyes! Tres cool. 8)

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C,

yeah that's it!


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