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Post subject: Do I have noiseless pickups
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:36 am
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Yesterday I stopped off at a guitar shop to fiddle with some strats... One thing that I noticed was the hum on these guitars was a lot more than the noice I get from my pups... And that (on these guitars in the store) the single pickup positions had more hum than the dual switch positions...

On my strat, there is no difference in hum between pickup switch positions and there really isn't much hum at all really..

Do you think I may have noiseless pickups...

My strat is an E series Japanese contemporary Standard 22.

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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:50 am
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This is what I think but I could be wrong.
They're probably not noiseless, just don't get as much hum in a place like your house. Have you gigged with it yet?
I think things like other electronics, flourescent lights, things like that make the hum more noticable.


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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:11 pm
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My guess is fluorescent lighting is the culprit. It induces LOTS more noise than your standard incandescent lighting, especially if it's not well removed from the rig.

In the late 1970's, I got a great deal on a Marshal 50 Watt Lead and Big M cabinet. I was in a second hand store and spotted it for something like $525 (a good deal already for that time). Told them I wanted to demo it, then realized the lighting was hanging really low and almost directly over it. Picked a Stratocaster from their lineup just for the single coils (I was a Gibson player mostly back then). Showed him how incredibly loud the hum was (it was REALLY loud!) and convinced him something must be wrong with the amp (guess I sold it well, as my buddy helped me load it in the car, he asked why I bought an amp that needed work :wink: ). Got it for $400 out the door, and it played full tilt for hundreds of hours without missing a beat (or making horrible amounts of hum!). Now if only I'd bought that Strat... :!:

ETA, if you want to prove it to yourself, take your guitar in and try the same set up.

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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:13 pm
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My single coil pups sound pretty much the same in any position the switch is in. OK, 1,3, and 5 are just barely a little brighter but no noisier than 2 and 4. Must be the powerhouse feature of the dummy pup under the pick guard for noise cancellation really works! :D

Well, the room I play in is pretty "clean" electronically. 8)

I'll have to remember the light trick if I go to score a used amp and it's available. :wink:

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Easiest way to tell, even if you have optimum wiring conditions in your home..

Turn on, plug in, bit of gain, then go and stand by your TV or computer monitor (old style with tube - not plasma or LCD). Turn the guitar to face the screen. You'll know instantly if you have noiseless pickups..

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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:43 am
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adey wrote:
Easiest way to tell, even if you have optimum wiring conditions in your home..

Turn on, plug in, bit of gain, then go and stand by your TV or computer monitor (old style with tube - not plasma or LCD). Turn the guitar to face the screen. You'll know instantly if you have noiseless pickups..


I did this test and the hum got much worse as I brought the guitar close to my TV... Positions 2 and 4 being less noisy...

So I assume they are NOT noiseless ?? I can then firmly assume these pickups are stock Japanese....

Thanks for that post !!

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:03 pm
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Yes - in that case, not noiseless.. If 2 and 4 were less noisy, then your middle pickup is almost certainly reverse wound.

Buts it's the noise thats part of the charm of single coil pickups IMHO! You don't hear it when you're playing.

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:47 pm
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These pickups may not be noiseless.. But they are pretty darn quiet if you ask me... Just don't get them near a TV...

It may be the new USA electronics and my attention to detail to make sure the grounding was done with good wire and all connections solid and soldered...

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:07 pm
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Cajun the truth is, it may be you who is electrically quiet. The majority of noise isnt from lightbulbs and tv's (though they do contribute). It's from your own body's electrical field.
Think about it, when you touch the bridge and strings what are you earthing and where is it going? It's certainly not a current from your amplifier, you'd be dead or hospitalized with all that running up your arm and down your legs.
Why does shielding the underside of the pickups lower noise if its all coming in from some lightbulb your facing? It doesnt, it shields the underside of the pickup from your own naturaly generated electricity.
How are you with other singlecoils? I understand you are/were a humbucker/gibson player.

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:33 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Cajun the truth is, it may be you who is electrically quiet. The majority of noise isnt from lightbulbs and tv's (though they do contribute). It's from your own body's electrical field.
Think about it, when you touch the bridge and strings what are you earthing and where is it going? It's certainly not a current from your amplifier, you'd be dead or hospitalized with all that running up your arm and down your legs.
Why does shielding the underside of the pickups lower noise if its all coming in from some lightbulb your facing? It doesnt, it shields the underside of the pickup from your own naturaly generated electricity.
How are you with other singlecoils? I understand you are/were a humbucker/gibson player.


I once had a guitar with P-100's but those are hum cancelling... My es-135 has Phat Cats which are single coil and very quiet... My strat was very noisy before I swapped out all the wiring/pots/switch.. But that may have been for a varietly of reasons..

Bottom line is I like a quiet guitar and this one has been just that... very quiet... I should this strat back to that guitar shop to see how it does in that store...

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