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Post subject: how to get a certain sound.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:07 pm
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im trying to get this sound, http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 0139202305, its in the jimmie vaughn stratocaster.
i have hwy1 ones and a fender G-DEC, i can play, however recently made the transition to electric guitar moreless 8 mos ago. can i reach that sound by only changing out p/us, or do i need a good amp, couple of pedals etc. your help would be greatly appreciated.
im thinking of going either with SCN, or TEXAS specials,
maybe even texmex, i love plaving bluesy stuff. i also like some rock, some country. a little heavy stuff


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:04 pm
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To my ears, that sounds like it was recorded using a little Champ cranked up. Probably no pedals involved. Little amp, little 10 inch speaker?

Thats my guess.

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:48 am
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thnks, kinda figured it was an amp issue. that guitar has texmex p/us,
the ones in hwy 1 are stock.


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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:59 pm
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cyclingjar wrote:
thnks, kinda figured it was an amp issue. that guitar has texmex p/us,
the ones in hwy 1 are stock.


While the texmex pups are hotter, you should be able to get that with just stock pups too.

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Post subject: check the condition and gauge of your strings
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:53 am
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I agree with the previous poster that this sound should be achievable with your stock pickups and a decent tube amp with the level up (or master volume).
Keep in mind that string gauge and condition play a HUGE part in the strength and shape of your sound. Train your way up to using the heaviest string gauge you can and change your strings often for the strongest sound. In my humble opinion you should get a spanked for ever going below .010 gauge strings on a Strat or .010.5's on a Les Paul.
The sonic difference between .009 and .010 gauge is rediculously HUGE so make this committment. You wont be sorry.


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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:58 am
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Not to bust your chops specifically, sk6strng, because it's a very widely held belief, but that "bigger string gauge" thing is a macho myth.

Billy Gibbons plays 8s. Hendrix played 8s and 9s. Most players get a huge roaring tone on a Strat with 9s or 10s.

Tone is a matter of touch sensitivity and learning that picking hard does not translate into "tone." This myth persists because SRV used such heavy strings, and because most guitar players are men who just naturally equate self-worth with being able to lift heavy things.

Stevie Ray used those cables because he was tuned down half a step and attacked his guitar like he hated it. Thats' not the only "tone," and it's not the only way to achieve it, either.

So, to restate: big tone is not the result of big strings. It's the result of practice.

ALso, the OP doesn't mention what string gauge he's using... you seem to assume he needs to be "spanked" for using something less than 10s. For all you know, he's already playing 12s.


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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:00 am
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Gravity Jim wrote:
Not to bust your chops specifically, sk6strng, because it's a very widely held belief, but that "bigger string gauge" thing is a macho myth.

Billy Gibbons plays 8s. Hendrix played 8s and 9s. Most players get a huge roaring tone on a Strat with 9s or 10s.

Tone is a matter of touch sensitivity and learning that picking hard does not translate into "tone." This myth persists because SRV used such heavy strings, and because most guitar players are men who just naturally equate self-worth with being able to lift heavy things.

Stevie Ray used those cables because he was tuned down half a step and attacked his guitar like he hated it. Thats' not the only "tone," and it's not the only way to achieve it, either.

So, to restate: big tone is not the result of big strings. It's the result of practice.


I agree with this. It's different for an acoustic guitar but there are too many other variables with an electric.


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Post subject: string gauge...
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:33 am
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Hey GJ...I hear you here but when you look at the signal coming from the guitar on a scope, the output levels and waveform shape of the lighter strings as they recoil from a pick attack arent as strong.
I will split the difference with you and endorse (in my humble opinion) .010's ona a Strat but not .009's...


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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:35 am
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sorry to add on G Jim...not spanking this guy, just a general comment, and mostly about using strings that arent old and dead.
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Post subject: graviry jim, sk8
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:25 pm
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thanks for the comments and advice i did consider changing strings to heavier gauge, however i do like 9's, much easier to bend, i figured what i need is a good tube amp, i did mess with the g dec, different settings, reverb, bass, etc. i got a great sound, very bluesy.


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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:06 pm
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i have the opinion that the gauge does effect the sound, to me atleast when i play 10's i get a real jangle complicated sound with lots of harmonics and ghost notes popping off everywhere and with 11's i get a much more concentrated duller, more sweet sounding tone. i read someone say once that stevie had to work for every note he played and you can hear it from the clean concentrated sound he made. on the other hand jimi's crazy soundscapes and complicated tone sound like lighter strings. i dont think theres any other way to get around that then using the gauges.


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