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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:57 pm
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Maybe I am wrong but I am sitting here looking at my new strat and it has abalone dots...NOT the clay dots on the American Standard. Perhaps they are not Abolone but they look like it to me. Have you looked at some in person?


Also, what is the locking bridge that has been dropped? Are you talking about the original Floyd Rose double locking system? This current bridge is a 2 point trem and while it doesn't lock, it stays in tune. I am planning on blocking it so it will only dive and will not pull up. I also did this to my original Floyd.


I'm talking about the Fender Deluxe Locking tremolo bridge designed by Fender and Floyd Rose. This is the same bridge used on the Plus and American Deluxe Series from 1989 to 2007.

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sftratplexi wrote:
Maybe I am wrong but I am sitting here looking at my new strat and it has abalone dots...NOT the clay dots on the American Standard. Perhaps they are not Abolone but they look like it to me. Have you looked at some in person?


Also, what is the locking bridge that has been dropped? Are you talking about the original Floyd Rose double locking system? This current bridge is a 2 point trem and while it doesn't lock, it stays in tune. I am planning on blocking it so it will only dive and will not pull up. I also did this to my original Floyd.


I dont have an issue with the locking trem, I have a Floyd Strat that is my ideal that fits that purpose :)

Here you go, this is a photo of my Deluxe, you will see the abalone on the rosewood:

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When you say locking....are you saying the trem itself locked and would not move? It looks like it has the same roller nut so I assume its not double locking; correct?

Not sure what advantage there is to having it locked down so it doesn't move. I have a PRS SE 2 with P-90s that has a fixed bridge and will be picking up a Les Paul at some point for another tonal option and both of those guitars have fixed bridges. I bought the Strat so I can use the trem. To me, the Strat is a much more versatile guitar and covers a wider spectrum of music.


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When you say locking


A Deluxe locking bridge is a regular American 2-point vibrato system featuring locking saddles which lock the strings down to the bridge to prevent the tuning unstability normally associated with heavy use of the tremolo bar. Fender recommends using the Deluxe locking bridge with locking tuners and an LSR roller nut for optimal tuning stability. Same function as an original Floyd Rose tremolo, but similar in size and feel to a normal American Series 2-point bridge.

Don't confuse a locking tremolo with a blocked bridge because they're different animals.

Blocking a bridge consists to place a small piece of wood into the bridge cavity to prevent any movement from the whammy bar. Blocked bridges act pretty much like a fixed/stop tailpiece or a hardtail bridgeplate.


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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:37 pm
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Well, I just tried one at GC and I like it. I absolutely hate the SCNs on my American Deluxe 60th Aniversery. It sounds like I am using MIDI. Not kidding. Completely sterile. They have absolutely no life. I don't even use it. On my other Strats, I usually only use the neck pickup, but on the new deluxe I tried today, (HSS) I liked the middle pickup a lot more than usual. The pickups are still not perfect. But they are a lot better. I couldn't get as much quack out of the "in between" settings, but it was there a little bit. The pickups were a little more glassy than the SCNs, and they had a much better attack. Still a little compressed though. It would be much easier to cover up with some tubes though. The "passing lane", the thing that bypasses the pots, was crazy! It sounds like a boost because more signal gets through, but it has a lot of treble. Almost sounds like a Tele. I didn't mess around much with the amp settings, but you could get some real good stuff there maybe, if you turn down the treble, boost the bass. I wish that they put the "passing lane" in all of them. That combined with the S-1 and my fingers could be pretty fun. Looks like I will finally get the guts to put my Texas Specials in my old deluxe and get this one when I can. But I'll probably just get a hum eliminator and forget about this crazy dream of a perfect silent tone. Hey Fender, it would be cool if all of your guitars has this "passing lane". It was a great addition the humbucker AS WELL as the singles.


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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:16 pm
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Well, I just tried one at GC and I like it. I absolutely hate the SCNs on my American Deluxe 60th Aniversery. It sounds like I am using MIDI. Not kidding. Completely sterile. They have absolutely no life. I don't even use it. On my other Strats, I usually only use the neck pickup, but on the new deluxe I tried today, (HSS) I liked the middle pickup a lot more than usual. The pickups are still not perfect. But they are a lot better. I couldn't get as much quack out of the "in between" settings, but it was there a little bit. The pickups were a little more glassy than the SCNs, and they had a much better attack. Still a little compressed though. It would be much easier to cover up with some tubes though. The "passing lane", the thing that bypasses the pots, was crazy! It sounds like a boost because more signal gets through, but it has a lot of treble. Almost sounds like a Tele. I didn't mess around much with the amp settings, but you could get some real good stuff there maybe, if you turn down the treble, boost the bass. I wish that they put the "passing lane" in all of them. That combined with the S-1 and my fingers could be pretty fun. Looks like I will finally get the guts to put my Texas Specials in my old deluxe and get this one when I can. But I'll probably just get a hum eliminator and forget about this crazy dream of a perfect silent tone. Hey Fender, it would be cool if all of your guitars has this "passing lane". It was a great addition the humbucker AS WELL as the singles.


I agree, SCNs are totally bland-sounding. The N3s, although not perfect, are a nice improvement.

BTW, the "passing lane" acts very much like an active mid-boost switch, even though the Deluxe HSS has passive electronics.


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chromeface wrote:
sftratplexi wrote:
When you say locking


A Deluxe locking bridge is a regular American 2-point vibrato system featuring locking saddles which lock the strings down to the bridge to prevent the tuning unstability normally associated with heavy use of the tremolo bar. Fender recommends using the Deluxe locking bridge with locking tuners and an LSR roller nut for optimal tuning stability. Same function as an original Floyd Rose tremolo, but similar in size and feel to a normal American Series 2-point bridge.

Don't confuse a locking tremolo with a blocked bridge because they're different animals.

Blocking a bridge consists to place a small piece of wood into the bridge cavity to prevent any movement from the whammy bar. Blocked bridges act pretty much like a fixed/stop tailpiece or a hardtail bridgeplate.


Ok...I understand what your are describing but I still don't see the big upside. The current Floating bridge on my new Deluxe does not lock but it stays in tune so there is no need to lock it. The original Floyd Rose locked not only the strings at the bridge but locked them at the nut...hence the double locking system. The original Floyd I had never went out of tune during a set. As I have stated here many times, I think its the best gigging guitar of all time. This new Deluxe may be just as good but I need more time to put it to the test.

When I say blocking, I am referring to putting a piece of wood in the trem cavity that prevents pulling the trem up but allows it to be pushed down...hence dive bombing. I used a thin piece of balsa wood on my Floyd and will do the same to this one.

Anyway, thanks for the info on the locked bridge. At this point I don't think I need it, the guitar has stayed in tune all week and I have played it 2-3 hours/day with trem use and heavy bending.


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The deluxe locking tremolo locks the strings down not only at the bridge, but also at the tuners and the LSR Roller Nut. Although the bridge itself is a single-locking unit, the whole assembly is a double-locking system.

Different mechanism, though, but same functionality.


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