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Post subject: Painting a head stock and neck?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:54 am
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I have a question, I am going to get a american standard strat. It's olympic white with a Rosewood neck and maple headstock.

Pretty much this:
http://i41.tinypic.com/jikhnm.jpg

Recently while looking at fenders on google images, I came across this guitar which is suppose to be the worlds most "expensive" guitar. And I for some reason love the look on it (some of you may not like the look).
http://i40.tinypic.com/33v1dh0.jpg

So pretty much my question is, is it possible to make my guitar look exactly like the picture? If so how? Was the guitar in the image just painted by someone or it has to be a certain wood type? If it is possible to just paint it that exact color I'll get someone professional to do it. I just wanted to know if it was and how. (I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to paint it like that, but in case I want to, still debating.)

(remember, I'm new to guitars, so excuse me :D)


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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:21 am
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That's a black and white photo. How can you tell what the colors are?

You can't be serious. :lol: :lol:

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Its really hard to tell by the photo but i'll bet its just the wood. I play maple necks but the wood might be worn in as well. That's probably the case. I've never seen a pic of a strat with a painted neck... Love the white on the strat though :)

Btw Do you ever watch the show pawn stars? A lot of times people try to pass off signature merch. as super vaulable collectables, but it really depends... Many are worth nothing at all.

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http://www.fender.com/news/index.php?display_article=74

I remember seeing a color photo in Rolling Stone. It is a white Stratocaster with a rosewood neck


Wow :shock: Well, I'll never go into the sales business... :wink:

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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:10 pm
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jrx2396 wrote:
So pretty much my question is, is it possible to make my guitar look exactly like the picture? If so how? Was the guitar in the image just painted by someone or it has to be a certain wood type? If it is possible to just paint it that exact color I'll get someone professional to do it. I just wanted to know if it was and how.


Hi jrx2396: am I missing something here? What's all this about painting it, including the headstock? This is just a standard white Strat that lots of famous players have "painted" their signatures onto.

Get a white Strat, then have Ronnie Wood, Pete Townshend, Eric someone-or-other and a bunch of others who's writing I can't read sign it for you. Then you'll have that guitar...

Now. A prize to whoever can read ALL of those sigs...

Cheers - C


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okay thanks to everyone who actually answered the question since a lot of people were sarcastic/smart $@!'s. I'm new to guitars and I asked how did they got the neck/head that color since in every photo it does looks black (darker then Rosewood). I did ask if it was a certain wood type or painted, I didn't know. thnaks.


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jrx2396 wrote:
okay thanks to everyone who actually answered the question since a lot of people were sarcastic/smart $@!'s.


Hi again jrx2396: I just read through the thread again and see no sarcasm or smart-arsery here. I do see some gentle friendly humor.

I suspect you've misunderstood the tone round here. Think again before you start throwing insults around: it doesn't go down well.

You've asked a question and been given an answer. The right one as it happens.

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Ceri wrote:
jrx2396 wrote:
okay thanks to everyone who actually answered the question since a lot of people were sarcastic/smart $@!'s.


Hi again jrx2396: I just read through the thread again and see no sarcasm or smart-arsery here. I do see some gentle friendly humor.

I suspect you've misunderstood the tone round here. Think again before you start throwing insults around: it doesn't go down well.

You've asked a question and been given an answer. The right one as it happens.

Cheers - C


Actually I refrain what I said, everyone helped out and I appreciate it, the only person who said something that I would consider being a smart A is you ceri.

"Hi jrx2396: am I missing something here? What's all this about painting it, including the headstock? This is just a standard white Strat that lots of famous players have "painted" their signatures onto. "

That was a smart A answer. I'm not here to argue with anyone, and Im not throwing insults around, and I think your answer was unnecessary. My question was answered and this thread has done its purpose. Thank you.


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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:04 pm
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I honestly thought you must have been goofing on us. Sorry if I seemed sarcastic. :oops:

Yeah, that's a nice Strat but the only real special part of it is the signatures. Everything else you can get on a new instrument without much problem. 8)

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VT BlackStrat wrote:
I honestly thought you must have been goofing on us. Sorry if I seemed sarcastic. :oops:

Yeah, that's a nice Strat but the only real special part of it is the signatures. Everything else you can get on a new instrument without much problem. 8)


yeah I'm new to guitars as in I only know a few notes. so I don't really know anything about them :p. I got the rosewood neck but mines has a maple head. is there a place I can order a rosewood head like the one in the picture?


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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:13 pm
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The neck/headstock are essentially one piece when manufactured so you'd have to order a custom piece to the best of my knowledge. And honestly, I believe that headstock is maple. It's much lighter than the rosewood fretboard.

It looks an awful lot like the $2200 John Mayer Stratocaster.
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0119700805

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VT BlackStrat wrote:
The neck/headstock are essentially one piece when manufactured so you'd have to order a custom piece to the best of my knowledge.


alright nowww all my questions were actually answered. thank you very much. (excuse my lack of guitar knowledge I was just confused because the signed guitar looks black and maplewood looks brownish and I thought they were different colors)


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Look how dark the headstock is on the Jimmy Vaughan in this picture. There's a lot of variation in color of different woods. http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0139202305

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I cannot make out what is different from the Strat he bought to the one in the picture. If the fret board is black it could be an Ebony board but I doubt that. Is there a color picture of it that you have so we can actually get a good look. And I really saw no harm in what Ceri said as he is one of the best guys on the forum and not everything is always so serious, as I think you took it the wrong way.


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Well, just to toss my $.02 worth of wood in on this fire, I have to agree with Ceri...other than the signatures, I'm not seeing anything that would indicate anything special about this guitar...however...so far all I've seen is two copy's of the same black and white picture comparing it to what looks like a pic from a sales catalog or something. So that said, my first comment isn't aimed at the guitar as much as the pictures/photography.

First and foremost, you can't really accurately judge these pictures as far as "how dark the neck/headstock looks"...I suspect that these look darker just because of the picture. Please remember that in this day and age of digital photography and "Photoshop" you can't always accept a picture as an "exact representation of the truth". Give me 30 seconds in Photoshop and I can make that "dark picture" look much lighter and look like a totally different guitar. Also as a photographer myself, there's nothing there to indicate what kind of lighting was used to light the guitar in that picture...even different lighting will make anything look "different" in regards to such things. So that said...

Since, as the article states this is a "Arctic White Standard Series Stratocaster" (I wonder if that's an Am Std or an MIM?), I would suspect that if you were to look at this guitar in person the headstock and neck probably wouldn't look any darker than any other 2005 Strat with a rosewood fretboard. Since Fender donated it for this auction I seriously doubt there was anything special about it (again other than the signatures) and being a 2005 it's not like it's old enough to really have yellowed much (if at all)...if anything, I would suspect that the maple on my '96 MIM is probably a bit darker in regards to the headstock and such.

So if you like "the look" of this guitar...even though there's really not that much there because of the black and white picture...here's a few suggestions. If you like the "almost black" fretboard, first please know that there are a number of companies such as Mighty-Mite and Warmoth that do sell Strat necks with ebony fretboards...and most often these are very nice necks. As far as a darker colored headstock, the only thing you really do there is look for something where a "vintage tint" has been applied...basically a clear lacquer (or poly) where a bit of yellow tint has been added to make the finish look a little "older" (this is very common with relic style guitars).

I will say give Ceri a break. I don't think he was being deliberately sarcastic at all and again I agree with him. Based on what was presented here (a couple of subjective black and white pictures), all we're really talking about is a 2005 Standard Strat that was signed by a bunch of famous people...nothing really special about that guitar at all.

Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but I hope it helps.
Jim


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