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Post subject: Is this a real SRV ????
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:10 am
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It´s original or a fake one?

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy16 ... G_1177.jpg

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Post subject: Re: Is this a real SRV ????
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:49 am
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hpacheco80 wrote:
you are gonna have to supply more pics for anyone to answer the question.95 percent of the guitar is missing from the pic.


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Post subject: srv strat
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:25 am
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looks legit,

60s neck with signature, and vintage tint on the maple aspect.
left handed tremolo system, gold hardware, 3 tonesb, black pickguard.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:42 am
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It is a genuine Fender.One indication is the pale rosewood which is common on most S.R.V. models that I have encountered for some reason.


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Post subject: Decal of Fender in the headstock?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:44 am
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...something wrong with the decal of fender in the headstock ? First pic.


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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:05 am
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hpacheco80 wrote:
...something wrong with the decal of fender in the headstock ? First pic.
Nope ,the decal is typical from that time period and is legit.The guitar is legit as far as I can tell.The case is different,but it still looks like a SRV guitar .


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sonny wolf wrote:
It is a genuine Fender.One indication is the pale rosewood which is common on most S.R.V. models that I have encountered for some reason.


Fender say the fingerboard is pao ferro


The strap locks look to have been changed to a locking type and the case that came with mine is a vintage tweed, but so far so good.


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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:51 am
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It looks identical to the pics of other ones that I found on Google.

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It looks right to me. Outside of a different case which means nothing everything seems to be in order.


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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:38 am
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They are nice guitars.I have one and its my favorite,Heavier due to its neck and the body isnt routed for hsh , but sss.


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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:15 am
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Well...as always I'm no expert here at all but, there are a few things I'm seeing that make me question this instrument...

First like hpacheco80 said is the logo in that first pic. The style of the logo looks correct but you can clearly see a raised edge around it. I'm sorry to disagree with Budglo here but that logo -really- makes me hesitate. I can't speak to this particular model but typically when you see a raised edge like that, it usually means that the decal has been replaced/is NOT original. As I understand it, Fender applies their logos before the neck is finished and they typically do a very good job of buffing them out. Not to mention, the logos themselves are usually cut to be much more precise than what you see in that picture. Take a walk in to any Fender authorized dealer and look at a few headstocks...you don't usually see raised edges around the logo like that (at least I certainly never have). When the edges of the logo stand out -that- bad in a picture, it's time to ask questions!

Now I have to add here that yes...it's possible that maybe something happened to the original logo and someone replaced it but that begs the question, on a "top shelf" instrument as this supposedly is, why would they do such a poor job with it?

The second big thing I'm seeing here is the serial number. Alrighty, again I'm not a definitive expert here but based on the little bit of research I just did, the SRV Strats all seem to have a serial number that has either an "SEx", "SNx" or "SZx" followed by 5 digits...this guitar has an "SN8" followed by six digits! While it's possible that the SN8 could indicate it's a '98 model, there seems to be an extra digit there. I haven't been able to find -any- information that would explain the extra digit. I would -absolutely- run that serial number past Fender!

Another thing I'm seeing is the color of the finish. Ok...this too is a bit subjective as it's quite possible they could have changed it over the years (the SRV's have been out for quite a while now) but based on the picture listed here on Fender's website, the finish on an SRV looks much darker than the finish on the guitar in these pics. Here's a link to the current SRV model here on Fender's website...please compare those finishes...

http://www.fender.com/products/search.p ... 0109200800

Again this is something that could have been changed by Fender in recent years...Stevie's original #1 was after all a 3 tone. Certainly if you look at different pictures around the internet, you'll see some variation in the colors as well. That said, to me it would still warrant some degree of further investigation as I haven't seen any pictures that really match that finish exactly.

I would also note that according the Fender's website here that, on the current models at least, the case should be tweed.

Now obviously the bridge and hardware as well as the pickguard and such do all look correct however it also must be noted that it's not all that hard to find a gold plated left hand bridge and tuners as well as an SRV pickguard on Ebay so those things alone aren't conclusive that it's original.

These little things alone aren't enough to definitively say "fake" by any means but they -should- give you reason to ask more questions. If someone is considering buying this guitar (which the OP didn't indicate), the very first thing I would do is again run that serial number past the good folks at Fender...that extra digit really seems odd if this guitar were original! If I were considering buying this instrument, considering the price that it's likely to go for, I would also demand to see some pictures of the heal of the neck and the neck pocket of the body...there should be factory stamps that indicate both are "SRV". Now this is important here...if I were considering a guitar that was only going for $200 to $400, no...I probably wouldn't expect the seller to pull the neck to verify it's authenticity but on an instrument that's likely to go for upwards of $1500 - $2000 or more...yes...I would -demand- verification of these things. And if the seller was unwilling to provide it, I'd just walk away if for no other reason then because the logo and the serial number are again real fishy to me.

Again, just my $.02 worth...I hope it helps!
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:36 am
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lomitus wrote:
First like hpacheco80 said is the logo in that first pic. The style of the logo looks correct but you can clearly see a raised edge around it.


The Fender logo should be above the finish, as a matter of fact on my SRV the loop in the "d" is scratched off. The signature is however under the finish.

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I would -absolutely- run that serial number past Fender!


Send Fender customer service a quick email and they'll verify the serial number.

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Another thing I'm seeing is the color of the finish. Ok...this too is a bit subjective as it's quite possible they could have changed it over the years (the SRV's have been out for quite a while now) but based on the picture listed here on Fender's website, the finish on an SRV looks much darker than the finish on the guitar in these pics.


I'm pretty sure Fender did change the paint job on the SRV at some time. On my '92 SRV the width of the black paint near the edge is much thinner than on newer models.

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Now obviously the bridge and hardware as well as the pickguard and such do all look correct however it also must be noted that it's not all that hard to find a gold plated left hand bridge and tuners as well as an SRV pickguard on Ebay so those things alone aren't conclusive that it's original.


You are correct, find a left hand trem is not hard... but finding a right hand body with routing for a left hand trem is.

Are there pictures of the bottom of the pickups? There should be no CS logo on them and they should have a yellow lead coming off the middle pickup, telltale signs of Texas Specials.

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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:03 pm
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lomitus wrote:
Well...as always I'm no expert here at all but, there are a few things I'm seeing that make me question this instrument...

First like hpacheco80 said is the logo in that first pic. The style of the logo looks correct but you can clearly see a raised edge around it. I'm sorry to disagree with Budglo here but that logo -really- makes me hesitate. I can't speak to this particular model but typically when you see a raised edge like that, it usually means that the decal has been replaced/is NOT original. As I understand it, Fender applies their logos before the neck is finished and they typically do a very good job of buffing them out. Not to mention, the logos themselves are usually cut to be much more precise than what you see in that picture. Take a walk in to any Fender authorized dealer and look at a few headstocks...you don't usually see raised edges around the logo like that (at least I certainly never have). When the edges of the logo stand out -that- bad in a picture, it's time to ask questions!

Now I have to add here that yes...it's possible that maybe something happened to the original logo and someone replaced it but that begs the question, on a "top shelf" instrument as this supposedly is, why would they do such a poor job with it?

The second big thing I'm seeing here is the serial number. Alrighty, again I'm not a definitive expert here but based on the little bit of research I just did, the SRV Strats all seem to have a serial number that has either an "SEx", "SNx" or "SZx" followed by 5 digits...this guitar has an "SN8" followed by six digits! While it's possible that the SN8 could indicate it's a '98 model, there seems to be an extra digit there. I haven't been able to find -any- information that would explain the extra digit. I would -absolutely- run that serial number past Fender!

Another thing I'm seeing is the color of the finish. Ok...this too is a bit subjective as it's quite possible they could have changed it over the years (the SRV's have been out for quite a while now) but based on the picture listed here on Fender's website, the finish on an SRV looks much darker than the finish on the guitar in these pics. Here's a link to the current SRV model here on Fender's website...please compare those finishes...

http://www.fender.com/products/search.p ... 0109200800

Again this is something that could have been changed by Fender in recent years...Stevie's original #1 was after all a 3 tone. Certainly if you look at different pictures around the internet, you'll see some variation in the colors as well. That said, to me it would still warrant some degree of further investigation as I haven't seen any pictures that really match that finish exactly.

I would also note that according the Fender's website here that, on the current models at least, the case should be tweed.

Now obviously the bridge and hardware as well as the pickguard and such do all look correct however it also must be noted that it's not all that hard to find a gold plated left hand bridge and tuners as well as an SRV pickguard on Ebay so those things alone aren't conclusive that it's original.

These little things alone aren't enough to definitively say "fake" by any means but they -should- give you reason to ask more questions. If someone is considering buying this guitar (which the OP didn't indicate), the very first thing I would do is again run that serial number past the good folks at Fender...that extra digit really seems odd if this guitar were original! If I were considering buying this instrument, considering the price that it's likely to go for, I would also demand to see some pictures of the heal of the neck and the neck pocket of the body...there should be factory stamps that indicate both are "SRV". Now this is important here...if I were considering a guitar that was only going for $200 to $400, no...I probably wouldn't expect the seller to pull the neck to verify it's authenticity but on an instrument that's likely to go for upwards of $1500 - $2000 or more...yes...I would -demand- verification of these things. And if the seller was unwilling to provide it, I'd just walk away if for no other reason then because the logo and the serial number are again real fishy to me.

Again, just my $.02 worth...I hope it helps!
Jim
Jim ,FYI, and understand I have an advantage of laying my eyes on an SRV because I own one.Bought it brand new in 06 .The decal in question IS typical for the SRV and I believe the Eric Clapton artist guitars.The decal is raised a bit .If you do some searches on this forum , I remember a few people complaining about it.Again, this was typical for the early 60s from what I understand, but it is typical of the SRV.Also the color is pretty typical for a SRV strat.They seem to have more black than most sunbursts that I have seen and the woodgrain in both the body AND the fretboard seem consistant with my SRV.The serial number on mine also has 6 digits as well. Cant really explain why , but it does.Anyways, as a SRV owner I cant really see anything that throws out red flags,but its always good to be careful and if you have doubts , pass on it.FWIW.


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Post subject: Re: Is this a real SRV ????
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:06 pm
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Depends on how much they want for it. If its a custom shop it should say it. It appers to be just a SRV signature strat.... $1200-$1500 tops on the used market...

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Are the neckplates supposed to be blank on those?


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