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Post subject: 8 hole pickguard vs 11 hole pickguard
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:53 am
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simple question... will they both fit both or are the holes in completely diff places?


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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:13 am
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Short answer: depends on the body. Vintage bodies are typically drilled with 8 holes, more modern ones are drilled with 11. Depends on what you have.


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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:10 am
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I agree with BigJay...and don't forget about the increased sustain.


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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:11 am
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BigJay wrote:
The 11-hole pickguards sound better. More holes means better tone.

:twisted: :P :wink:


And that depends on the placement of the screw hole that is between the middle and neck pickups. If the hole is centered between the pickups you get more of a '60s tone, if the the hole is closer to the middle pickup you get more of a modern tone. ;-)

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Boys, this is just so wrong. We all know, more mass equals more sustain. It is legendary that sustain decreased when they switched to 11 holes; it's the whole reason '50s Strats are so prized.

Unicorns: that's something else that's legendary...

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sunburst wrote:
I agree with BigJay...and don't forget about the increased sustain.


I must respectfully disagree. More holes mean less mass, less mass means less sustain. Simple physics! :wink: :roll:

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I agree with BigJay...and don't forget about the increased sustain.


I must respectfully disagree. More holes mean less mass, less mass means less sustain. Simple physics! :wink: :roll:


But you can increase sustain if you use nickel plated screws instead of chrome plated screws for the pickguard.

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Post subject: Re: 8 hole pickguard vs 11 hole pickguard
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:46 am
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fenderpinky wrote:
simple question... will they both fit both or are the holes in completely diff places?


Seriously......

Some holes will match up, some won't.

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BigJay wrote:
The 11-hole pickguards sound better. More holes means better tone.

:twisted: :P :wink:


And that depends on the placement of the screw hole that is between the middle and neck pickups. If the hole is centered between the pickups you get more of a '60s tone, if the the hole is closer to the middle pickup you get more of a modern tone. ;-)


Really? I didnt know that, Chet. Im writing it down.

Do you think I should redrill my pickguards holes????

:lol:


Depends on the tone you are looking for, '60's or modern. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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martysnarf wrote:
Short answer: depends on the body. Vintage bodies are typically drilled with 8 holes, more modern ones are drilled with 11. Depends on what you have.


1994 Strat Plus with 11 holes is what it'll be going on to...

im wanting to get a plain white pickguard for it and hopefully something that has some age to it, not brand new... but everything on ebay is cheaper for 8 holes for some reason :cry:


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fenderpinky wrote:
1994 Strat Plus with 11 holes is what it'll be going on to...

im wanting to get a plain white pickguard for it and hopefully something that has some age to it, not brand new... but everything on ebay is cheaper for 8 holes for some reason :cry:


Yeah you'll need the 11. They are more expensive for some reason, but you should be able to find one for $25-$35 bucks or something, and if you look for some off-brands, you might be able to find a used one with some age. I'll hunt around online for you too and let you know if I see something. Check out this dude's Ebay store- another Forum member built his strat with some of his parts, and it looks like he has a ton of stuff:

http://stores.ebay.com/The-STRATosphere


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Careful selecting a pickguard -- I changed the 8-hole pickguard in my CP 50s from the original single-ply white to a 4-ply tortoise shell pickguard. Tone is now much darker and not vintage at all... I don't think tortoise shell pickguards were available in Strats in the '50s which explains the problem... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it...


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fenderpinky wrote:
1994 Strat Plus with 11 holes is what it'll be going on to...


It's easier to make an 8 screw pickguard work on an 11 hole body than the other way around.

That's because the typical 8 hole body is missing a little "shoulder" of wood in the control cavity ... right where one of the 11 screws would go.

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