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Post subject: STRING TREES ONE OR TWO?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:16 am
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I´m just wondering what anyone can say about "String Trees", According to my Fender history book, during 50 & 60´s were one tree, then in the seventies 2 string trees (with the large headstock), then the first "american Standard" in the early 80´s with the small headstock still kept 2 string trees, then 90´s and recently just one tree again (with the standards and deluxes)

Do string trees do anything else than tension the string down to the nut? why did Fender go from 2 trees to one again?, aren´t they supposed to be useful? what´s the criteria between choosing one or another? or none at all? like a Jeff Beck Strat?.

Rare to see small headstocks with 2 string trees.

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One tree is a necessity
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:57 am
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I could have sworn I read on these forums that Fender switched the angle of the headstock and after that only one string tree was needed after that.

My MIM Deluxe has a single and it's just stamped metal, not like the old "shoe & pin" style.

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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:35 pm
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VT BlackStrat wrote:
I could have sworn I read on these forums that Fender switched the angle of the headstock and after that only one string tree was needed after that.

My MIM Deluxe has a single and it's just stamped metal, not like the old "shoe & pin" style.

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No the angle of the headstock never changed and never will. It just wouldn't be a proper Fender headstock with a Gibson angle :P

Starting with the American Series and contunuing with the new American Standards, they have staggered tuners which eliminate the need for a string tree for the D and G strings. The height of the tuners decrease from the low E to the high E.

I'm not sure about why the Jeff Beck has no string tree. Must be something to do with the LSR nut on that model.

FYI - the Eric Johnson Strat has more wood shaved off of the face of the headstock so the tuners sit lower, eliminating the need for a tree.

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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:20 pm
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JB has LSR nut and supposedly you don't have string [E, B] pop/slippage with that. There are some Am DLX with LSR nust and no string tree(s). I am not sure why 70's and early standards had two trees. My MIM standard does not have staggered tuners and never had any issues with it.


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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:21 pm
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danielhelc wrote:
JB has LSR nut and supposedly you don't have string [E, B] pop/slippage with that. There are some Am DLX with LSR nust and no string tree(s). I am not sure why 70's and early standards had two trees. My MIM standard does not have staggered tuners and never had any issues with it.


The neck of my custom Strat is from a 95 plus deluxe, (those necks had the LSR nut with no string trees on them), this one too. Since I installed a wide bone nut instead, used two string trees and later noticed that maybe I just needed one. I thought I had seen everything in Strats and that small detail passed me unnoticed.
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By the way, do any of u know how to adjust the height of the strings on the floyd rose bridge as shown in picture here, I think it depends on the spring tension of the trem. thnx
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:17 pm
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By the way, do any of u know how to adjust the height of the strings on the floyd rose bridge as shown in picture here, I think it depends on the spring tension of the trem. thnx
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Turn those two black posts which the bridge plate rocks against counter-clockwise.

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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:28 pm
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oh i see Martian thanx. now, counterclockwise i suppose brings the strings lower and vice-versa?


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oh i see Martian thanx. now, counterclockwise i suppose brings the strings lower and vice-versa?


You're welcome.

Counter (or anti) clockwise will raise the strings up. Clockwise will lower them.

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