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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:45 pm
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I'd look into your amp as well. A 40 watt rated tube amp will be way louder than a 40 watt solid state amp which is something to keep in mind as well.

Fender makes some pretty sweet tube amps in that wattage range... the Peavey Classic 30 is another excellent option and may save you a few bucks. I had one of those years ago and kick myself for letting it go... these days I'm draging around a Twin Reverb RI...way more amp than I need but there's certainly no problem cutting though!


oh yes...the lovely work out you get from luggin a twin from space to stage to space to stage 8)
love the sound tho

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Have you tried setting your amps bass and mids on ten and backing off treble to 6or7?I'm not familiar with your amp but if it has a presence control try putting that on 10.Also set your master volume on 10 and just adjust your levels using the other volume controls.
Thats what I'll try! I'll might back the bass off tho I'll drownd out the bass player cranking the bass to 10 on a 150w twin. But Im starting to think it's all about the mids now. I've always loved SRV tone I don't want to emulate it but Ive always loved his really cranked mid range it made his tone really! Powerfull. And I've always thought that a single coil will pick out certain frequincies that a humbucker can't and vice verce. It's just finding them


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Mr. New Dilemma wrote:
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Could it be your band is playing to loud. For a while my band went through a volume wars phase. I would turn up to hear me, everyone would turn up to hear themselves, I would turn up some more, they would turn up, and this would continue until someone lost, which usually was me.

So, what did I do, I went and bought a Fender Twin Reverb. Now I win. What did the lead guitarist do, he bought a Peavey Triple XXX halfstack. So he wins.
Our bass player promptly realized we were both idiots, so he won because he didn't spend any money. :D

Eventually, we learned to turn down, and in the event we wanted to hear ourselves better each guitarist got his own type of monitor, be that a speaker in front of you or in ear, it really helped keep the volume in check and our tone got better because we snapped out of our gain war, and we became tighter as a band.

What model amp was your line 6??? I'm using the line 6 flextone iii xl

Anyway, that's just what we did, by the way, before the Fender Twin I was using a 150w Line6 2x12.


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The amp models I can emulate are Marshall plexi 45. Jtm800. Fender blackface. Fender vibroverb. Fender twinn. Soldano. Buddha zen master. Iv any of these are popular for cutting through I'll use whichever one you guys think might help with my mids cranked up???


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m7b5 wrote:
JamGuy wrote:
I'd look into your amp as well. A 40 watt rated tube amp will be way louder than a 40 watt solid state amp which is something to keep in mind as well.

Fender makes some pretty sweet tube amps in that wattage range... the Peavey Classic 30 is another excellent option and may save you a few bucks. I had one of those years ago and kick myself for letting it go... these days I'm draging around a Twin Reverb RI...way more amp than I need but there's certainly no problem cutting though!


oh yes...the lovely work out you get from luggin a twin from space to stage to space to stage 8)
love the sound tho
Could you give me your amp EQ settings for your twin. I can model it on my amp so might give me a basis to go on. Thing is my amps EQ takes on the exact characteristics of the EQ from the amp it's modeling at the time. Iv ya get my drift lol so it gets complicated that's the reason I ask for some peoples settings


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The JCM800 setting should have enough grunt and definition to cut through any mix,I use it on my Vox AD120 VTH and it would cut through brick walls.

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guitslinger wrote:
The JCM800 setting should have enough grunt and definition to cut through any mix,I use it on my Vox AD120 VTH and it would cut through brick walls.
Even set clean or with a slight drive?? I like a nice bluesy tone. What's your EQ settings?


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m7b5 wrote:
JamGuy wrote:
I'd look into your amp as well. A 40 watt rated tube amp will be way louder than a 40 watt solid state amp which is something to keep in mind as well.

Fender makes some pretty sweet tube amps in that wattage range... the Peavey Classic 30 is another excellent option and may save you a few bucks. I had one of those years ago and kick myself for letting it go... these days I'm draging around a Twin Reverb RI...way more amp than I need but there's certainly no problem cutting though!


oh yes...the lovely work out you get from luggin a twin from space to stage to space to stage 8)
love the sound tho


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Some good advice here in the recent posts. There is no doubt that the Line 6 can cut through if its operating properly ... and with nice tone, too. Even though the solution here is EQ (likely needs to dial up some mids), some new pickups may also be in order, as well, as some times weak pups just don't drive the rig properly. Yeah, you can go to some stacked single coils, for sure. But if you want to stay with pure single coils, even some Tex Mex would do the trick, as they are quite fiery Alnico V pups.

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01GT eibach wrote:
Some good advice here in the recent posts. There is no doubt that the Line 6 can cut through if its operating properly ... and with nice tone, too. Even though the solution here is EQ (likely needs to dial up some mids), some new pickups may also be in order, as well, as some times weak pups just don't drive the rig properly. Yeah, you can go to some stacked single coils, for sure. But if you want to stay with pure single coils, even some Tex Mex would do the trick, as they are quite fiery Alnico V pups.
Yeah man thought about some tex Mex as a cheaper alternative to Texas specials. My pickups are cs69s tho so there not actually week pups


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I don't know how the EQ responds on your amp it may be totally different from mine,for clean I turn the master and gain up full and turn the volume right down and adjust the volume levels from there.As far as EQ goes I turn presence full,treble 6 mid 7 bass 7 and get a nice responsive clean tone of course that all depends on your amp and guitar.For overdrive I just fiddle with every thing 'til it sounds right.

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I never realise how little I knew about EQ. I used to get told to turn down even tho I thought I wasn't that loud. I used to think that cranking the treble was the key to cutting through the mix. But now it's obvious now how wrong I was. I just ended up sounding shrill. Can the high treble frequancys cancell out or mask over some of the midrange??


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They can certainly overpower the mids if set too high,all it boils down to in the long run is constant tweaking because the volume on some amps is affected by changing the eq settings and if you change venues or even your position in a room eq settings would most likely have to be changed.
In time eq setting becomes 2nd nature,it's just a matter of getting used to it and your amp.I've had my Vox over a year and I'm still learning on it.

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