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Post subject: Info wanted on alumitone and Gibson humbuckers...
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:48 am
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I know some of you strat ultra fans have lace pups in your sticks but I'm curious to know if any of you have tried the alumitone buckers. I've come across some positive feedback in my research so far but am concerned that the lace pups may be too hot still for what I'm trying to achieve.

I'm wanting to remove the EMG active pups from my EC-1000 and switch to something passive that cleans up better. I am currently considering a set of Gibson Classic '57's (to get close to that brassy kind of allman bros. tone) But really just want something more mellow/warm than what I get from the EMG set up. Any feedback would be appreciated

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Post subject: Re: Info wanted on alumitone and Gibson humbuckers...
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:20 pm
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I know some of you strat ultra fans have lace pups in your sticks but I'm curious to know if any of you have tried the alumitone buckers. I've come across some positive feedback in my research so far but am concerned that the lace pups may be too hot still for what I'm trying to achieve.

I'm wanting to remove the EMG active pups from my EC-1000 and switch to something passive that cleans up better. I am currently considering a set of Gibson Classic '57's (to get close to that brassy kind of allman bros. tone) But really just want something more mellow/warm than what I get from the EMG set up. Any feedback would be appreciated

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Just remember Active Pickups have power in them already and their tone pots are 25k ohm resistance. Changing to passive pickups also require high resistance. Humbuckers are usually 500k and Single Coils are 250K.
I have a Les Paul and the pickups are awesome and very mellow in the neck position. Great blues rhythm and jazz tones.

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:32 pm
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Thanks for that tip DB!

I've already got the new pots and a wiring schematic. Just neep some info on the tone qualities of the alumitones. Sound clips, especially decent quality, are extremely hard to come by and I have yet to find anyone local with a set to try.

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all_thumbs09 wrote:
Thanks for that tip DB!

I've already got the new pots and a wiring schematic. Just neep some info on the tone qualities of the alumitones. Sound clips, especially decent quality, are extremely hard to come by and I have yet to find anyone local with a set to try.


I've never heard or seen those type of pickups before. Did you try youtube?

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I recently built and sold a Deluxe Strat with three single Alumitones and was very impressed with it's sound. They were decently quiet and cleaned up nicely when dropping the volume knob. I liked the Strat quack that you could still get from them and the bonus is that they look really cool. These are passive pups. This one has already been sold so unfortunately I don't have any tone samples. Pickup preference is so subjective it will be hard for anyone to really explain the "tone" because I believe to each ones ear they hear something a little different. Plus not to mention the tone difference when you put the guitar into someone's more capable hands. Here's what they looked like on the Strat.

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That is really gorgeous chicago, if you still had it, I might be making you an offer for it right about...now!

I have never heard of these particular pickups myself. They look cool though. :D


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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:36 am
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Thanks for the post Chicago. I remember seeing that guitar in a thread regarding an ebay auction a short while back. Beautiful work man!

Your right! pup tones and their interpritation are relative to each player. In the few poor quality sound clips I was able to locate (most of which were on youtube) they sounded pretty hot. I understand the the whole concept with these pups are efficiency. I think they may be too agressive for my wants at this point. Which is a shame cause they would have looked REALLY cool in the guitar I want to put them in.

I've demo'd several guitars with the Gibson classic 57's and find those to be the closest in tone to what I'm looking for. So suspect i'll end up slapping those in.

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Thanks for the post Chicago. I remember seeing that guitar in a thread regarding an ebay auction a short while back. Beautiful work man!

Your right! pup tones and their interpritation are relative to each player. In the few poor quality sound clips I was able to locate (most of which were on youtube) they sounded pretty hot. I understand the the whole concept with these pups are efficiency. I think they may be too agressive for my wants at this point. Which is a shame cause they would have looked REALLY cool in the guitar I want to put them in.

I've demo'd several guitars with the Gibson classic 57's and find those to be the closest in tone to what I'm looking for. So suspect i'll end up slapping those in.


I actually use the Gibson Burstbucker Pro's. They are a really strong output pickup. But I wouldn't use them on a Fender Strat. Too much power. I had a Fender Lonestar strat, but Pearly Gates Seymour Duncan just killed the Texas Special single coils. It wasn't a great combination. The decibal level between single coils and a humbucker had too great a difference.

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I actually use the Gibson Burstbucker Pro's. They are a really strong output pickup. But I wouldn't use them on a Fender Strat. Too much power. I had a Fender Lonestar strat, but Pearly Gates Seymour Duncan just killed the Texas Special single coils. It wasn't a great combination. The decibal level between single coils and a humbucker had too great a difference.


I'm not putting them in a strat. They are for this guitar:

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I'm looking for a warmer, more mellow pick up, not high output.

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DetroitBlues wrote:
all_thumbs09 wrote:
I actually use the Gibson Burstbucker Pro's. They are a really strong output pickup. But I wouldn't use them on a Fender Strat. Too much power. I had a Fender Lonestar strat, but Pearly Gates Seymour Duncan just killed the Texas Special single coils. It wasn't a great combination. The decibal level between single coils and a humbucker had too great a difference.


I'm not putting them in a strat. They are for this guitar:

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I'm looking for a warmer, more mellow pick up, not high output.


The Gibson BB Pro's be perfect for that guitar. ESP LTD guitar?

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:37 pm
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Yeah, its a ESP LTD EC-1000 Deluxe (vintage black). The guitar has really good bones. Wide flat finger board (ebony), really thin mahogany set neck, Earvana compensated nut, locking tuners and the Tone Pro bridge is extremely stable.

I loved the axe when I first got it man it really rocks! However; I have since bought 2 more guitars than more than cover any kind of heavier stuff. So now I want to mess around and see if I can get some Gibby tones out of it.

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all_thumbs09 wrote:
Yeah, its a ESP LTD EC-1000 Deluxe (vintage black). The guitar has really good bones. Wide flat finger board (ebony), really thin mahogany set neck, Earvana compensated nut, locking tuners and the Tone Pro bridge is extremely stable.

I loved the axe when I first got it man it really rocks! However; I have since bought 2 more guitars than more than cover any kind of heavier stuff. So now I want to mess around and see if I can get some Gibby tones out of it.


My Les Paul is a Epiphone LP, I put the Gibson Humbuckers instead of the cheap Chineese ones, and wow! My friend's Gibson LP Custom didn't sound any better in my hands or his. He spent $2,000. I spent around $500. I bought the pickups from Ebay as a set for around a hundred and bought the Epi on sale. Great deal for the money... But it looks like your ESP LTD has active pickups. You'll have to change the pots for the Gibson humbucker if they are active.

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