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I think we are all in agreement here that Rory couldn't "worn" his guitar that way in two-three lifetimes playing 0-24.


Who agrees with that statement?

By viewing album covers and pictures from over the years, you can watch the progression of wear on Rory's Strat.

I do believe that SRV's and Rory's had some wear when they got them ...


OK I thought it was a common logic that a guitar cannot normally be worn that way during that kind of period.
I was wrong.

So another words, you think it is possible thing to get the guitar to look like that unintentionally; e.g. without extensive abuse on purpose?


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orvilleowner wrote:
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I think we are all in agreement here that Rory couldn't "worn" his guitar that way in two-three lifetimes playing 0-24.


Who agrees with that statement?

By viewing album covers and pictures from over the years, you can watch the progression of wear on Rory's Strat.

I do believe that SRV's and Rory's had some wear when they got them ...


No. There's a huge history of Rory's guitar. The most notable effect that years of touring have had is the almost complete removal of the guitar's original sunburst finish, due to Gallagher's rare blood type which caused his sweat to be unusually acidic. Although the Strat was left abandoned in a ditch, in the rain, for days after being stolen, this isn't believed to have caused any of the effect. All of the wear is caused by playing, not misuse. It also had a period of time of having a replacement neck, with the original bowing due to the amount of moisture it absorbed during continuous touring.

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I think we are all in agreement here that Rory couldn't "worn" his guitar that way in two-three lifetimes playing 0-24.


Who agrees with that statement?

By viewing album covers and pictures from over the years, you can watch the progression of wear on Rory's Strat.

I do believe that SRV's and Rory's had some wear when they got them ...


OK I thought it was a common logic that a guitar cannot normally be worn that way during that kind of period.
I was wrong.

So another words, you think it is possible thing to get the guitar to look like that unintentionally; e.g. without extensive abuse on purpose?


Here's some history about SRV... Used Number 1 as a surfboard on stage countless times. Watched his brother bounce a guitar of a wall and then keep playing a solo. He attempting the same thing and snapped the neck. His guitar was used and a partscaster, 57 body and 62 neck. But really only years of abuse not just playing made his guitar look like a used piece of driftwood.

Almost every other guitar you'll find out there that's naturally relic'ed only show wear on the armrest, fretboard (where fingers actually touched the fretboard, not the the RoadWorn way).

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Used Number 1 as a surfboard on stage countless times.


:shock: Stevie was one of a kind that's for sure...

BTW thanks for the Rory's link, I've read it a bit he seemed to have been quite a nice guy 8) .


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I think that worn down doesn't equal trashing down or intentionally breaking up things but instead a gradual degradation by using it in natural way, the way it's meant to be used? Maybe even a bit abusive way, but...

I think we are all in agreement here that Rory couldn't "worn" his guitar that way in two-three lifetimes playing 0-24. Stevie was just tad better in this regard (judging from the pic) :P .



The point is that their guitars acquired their wear through, albeit extreme, wear in the coarse of their careers as showmen. Certainly SRV's strat took some crazy knocks, but both guitars got their scars as instruments, and in a lesser sense props, but all part of the show. None of it was faked. SRV's custom sticker is there to cover up his screw up in trying a mod out.

These other things are sanded and cut to look like they have a history, they don't.

Whether Rory's guitar aged due to sweat and wear, or whether the night in a ditch after being stolen had anything to do with it is a bit off point. Either way the results are part of the guitar's history, and part of the story of the artist. The pre-bought relics are just artifice. Rory and SRV's guitars aren't cool because they are all banged up, how and why they got all banged up is what's cool.

I think it's a bit fitting that mayer's worn Strat is based off the SRV template. Shallow and superficial, a pale copy, just like him.

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A point well taken Twelvebar

The thing with me is I'm a huge fan of Rory's. I don't need a guitar that looks like his to act like some Rory Gallagher poser fanboy. I learned some of his technique and play some of his songs as a tribute to the man, not the guitar. I won't trash my Strat to look like his, and I will never buy a signature guitar except a Les Paul. I just hope whoever buys a Roadworn doesn't have a bandmate with the same guitar with the same identical marks. It would work well if you had a band called "The Posers" or "The Fakes" LOL.


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I was loaned one as a demo from my local guitar center for the weekend...I tried to use it for a Friday night gig and i didn't like the way it sounded ..But i thought that it played excellent i loved the feel and the vibe the guitar gave off..The neck was fast and comfortable i thought on this one they did an excellent job with the fret ends not overlapping the sides of the neck ..But i hated the guitars tone..
So they gave me another one to play the next night and everything that i said about the first one was true about the second one also played and felt fantastic but i hated the tone..
I have since come to realize i can not stand the the tone of Tex Mex pick ups and that is what the roadworns have in them..
I would buy a Roadworn and may buy one used but i don't want to pay the upper end price for a guitar that i can't stand the pick ups in..If they would put out a road worn with Texas Specials in it i would buy one...


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63supro wrote:
A point well taken Twelvebar

The thing with me is I'm a huge fan of Rory's. I don't need a guitar that looks like his to act like some Rory Gallagher poser fanboy. I learned some of his technique and play some of his songs as a tribute to the man, not the guitar. I won't trash my Strat to look like his, and I will never buy a signature guitar except a Les Paul. I just hope whoever buys a Roadworn doesn't have a bandmate with the same guitar with the same identical marks. It would work well if you had a band called "The Posers" or "The Fakes" LOL.


haha I agree there, though I tried a jeff beck signature and it was a ton of guitar, and I also almost bought an eric johnson Strat, even I'm not really much of a fan of his(I like 'Cliffs of Dover' but i could take or leave the rest of his stuff,) oddly i loved the way that guitar sounded, clean even though I associate his sound with way too much processing, I just really liked the way it played. No fake wear though, that would be a deal breaker for me. But I would buy a signature if the guitar stood on it's own merit, and as long as i couldn't get the same thing sans signature for a cheaper price.

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63supro wrote:
A point well taken Twelvebar

The thing with me is I'm a huge fan of Rory's. I don't need a guitar that looks like his to act like some Rory Gallagher poser fanboy. I learned some of his technique and play some of his songs as a tribute to the man, not the guitar. I won't trash my Strat to look like his, and I will never buy a signature guitar except a Les Paul. I just hope whoever buys a Roadworn doesn't have a bandmate with the same guitar with the same identical marks. It would work well if you had a band called "The Posers" or "The Fakes" LOL.
I cant totally agree because I have a SRV.To me , it depends on why you buy one.Certainly I admire SRV and use some of ideas for licks,but I have been a big fan of the Texas Specials and the neck on the SRV is one of the nicest necks I have played.Some of the signature strats allows one to get certain options that they wouldnt find on any strat.Nowhere can I find a strat that has Texas Specials with a 12" radius D profile neck with Dunlop 6105 frets with vintage tuners and 6 point tremolo.Since I dont use the tremolo, the lefty one isnt a huge deal.As a matter of fact I rarely screw the arm in and use it.You just change the pickgard and it looks just like a sunburst strat with gold hardware.That being said there are plenty of posers out there.John Mayer being one of them.


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I love a telecaster road worn much than stratocaster.


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I really like my 50s Road Worn Strat. It plays great. The only thing I did was adjust the pickup heights. The sound was too thin at first. True, I paid too much and the wear really isn't what would happen naturally but I like it just the same.
If I had purchased a custom relic, I damn sure would've paid too much for unnatural wear! Guitar wear used to be the mark of a true musician, a traveler, a nomad. I'm none of the above but I like the looks and I have more money for more guitars.
If I paid $10,000 for a "Lenny" copy it would be only to say "look how much I paid" because it wouldn't make me a better musician and I bet it doesn't sound or play any better than a $500-$1000 guitar that's been set-up or slightly modded.
It's just my opinion. I've only played guitar for 25 years so I still have a lot to learn.

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shupe13 wrote:
I really like my 50s Road Worn Strat. It plays great. The only thing I did was adjust the pickup heights. The sound was too thin at first. True, I paid too much and the wear really isn't what would happen naturally but I like it just the same.


I actually think that the Road Worns look quite realistic.

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orvilleowner wrote:
shupe13 wrote:
I really like my 50s Road Worn Strat. It plays great. The only thing I did was adjust the pickup heights. The sound was too thin at first. True, I paid too much and the wear really isn't what would happen naturally but I like it just the same.


I actually think that the Road Worns look quite realistic.

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IMO not even close. YMMV


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When I first saw the adds I said nice , then I saw them in the store , then I said wtf is this s--t,crap junk ,whatever it is i am not impressed. Get ahold fo a small head hiyay-1 , and go nuts yourself. I can $@!. one of these for about $600. Did you see the neck jobs on these. Leo is got to be rollin in his box man. MIM for around a grand, Gimme one too break.


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I played a 60's roadworn in the store yesterday, and liked the neck a whole lot, but not the pickups. I'm also a fan of the nitro finish, but the whole "fake wear and tear" thing mystifies me completely. I cannot think of any product other than a guitar, where you'd wind up paying extra so it looked like it was second hand: It seems weird to me. But I liked it enough that the "relic" thing seemed unimportant. If I really like the neck on a guitar, the rest becomes a secondary consideration to me.

I'm seriously considering getting one, and just swapping the pups for something else. I really liked the 7.25 inch radius, just because it was different to my H1 Strat.

I played a 50's one and didn't like the neck as much (then again, I'm not a maple fan or a V-neck profile fan).

I don't fancy the necks on the Classic Player ones, although the noiseless pups are obviously a great feature of those models.

Think I'll wait and see, play a few more things, and just mull it over for a while. The 60's RW is looking like my next Strat, though, at the moment.


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