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Post subject: buffed glossy rosewood fingerboard... how to "degloss&q
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:47 pm
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What does fender put on the rosewood fingerboards?

Is it easy to remove to go back to bare wood?

I found a 62reissue that I like, but I'd prefer to just have bare wood. So I'm wondering what would be involved to revert this.

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:00 pm
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It is bare wood if its a fender strat thats not a custom order.

The only company to my knowledge that lacquers fingerboards is Rickenbacker

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:40 pm
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Dude, Fender sprays the entire neck with matte, or tinted glossy poly and then buffs the face of the HS. Almost any strat you pick up nowadays has coating on the frets. My American Deluxe did. Took me forever to clean it all off... Not a big thing, but a detail I pay attention to. The fetting surface is buffed from the factory and that's it.


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It is bare wood if its a fender strat thats not a custom order.

The only company to my knowledge that lacquers fingerboards is Rickenbacker

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So there'd no need to lem oil a rosewood board in that case then? After all it cant penetrate the lacquer can it.

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:23 pm
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HAHA! Okay, I'm stupeed.. I thought the subject was maple. DUH!! My bad, Niki.

You are correct. Rosewood is a naturally oily wood with a waxy texture when it's well hydrated. The white stuff in the grain is the buffing compound used to polish the frets. Other than that, there is no finish on rosewood.


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So there'd no need to lem oil a rosewood board in that case then? After all it cant penetrate the lacquer can it.

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HAHA! Okay, I'm stupeed.. I thought the subject was maple. DUH!! My bad, Niki.

You are correct. Rosewood is a naturally oily wood with a waxy texture when it's well hydrated. The white stuff in the grain is the buffing compound used to polish the frets. Other than that, there is no finish on rosewood.


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So there'd no need to lem oil a rosewood board in that case then? After all it cant penetrate the lacquer can it.


Joelski mate I honestly thought you had a point. I've never owned a brand spankin new rosewood boarded fender guitar. I thought a light dusting of lacquer would likely get worn off quickly. Like it does on fret tops.

When it comes to finishes and lacquers I'm a complete dullard mate. A real Laurel and Hardy affair.

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I can't believe they choose to spray the neck, frets and all. We put a man on the moon, but we can't fret the neck after the finish is applied! Drove me bonkers chipping the poly off the frets just for appearance' sake and my own concept of perfection!


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HAHA! Okay, I'm stupeed.. I thought the subject was maple. DUH!! My bad, Niki.

You are correct. Rosewood is a naturally oily wood with a waxy texture when it's well hydrated. The white stuff in the grain is the buffing compound used to polish the frets. Other than that, there is no finish on rosewood.


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So there'd no need to lem oil a rosewood board in that case then? After all it cant penetrate the lacquer can it.


Joelski mate I honestly thought you had a point. I've never owned a brand spankin new rosewood boarded fender guitar. I thought a light dusting of lacquer would likely get worn off quickly. Like it does on fret tops.

When it comes to finishes and lacquers I'm a complete dullard mate. A real Laurel and Hardy affair.

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Gotta say I'm not entirely a fan of that part of a maple board. I can see how it serves a purpose though, by sealing any underside of fret to fingerboard gap.

Not ideal I know but take some consolation from it mate.

Heres Laurel and Hardy again cos the other one got deleted.

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:08 am
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Only a guess, but from the look of it I'd say the boards are lightly waxed at the factory - this seems to be a recent thing. My Am Std and YJM came that way too,


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Joelski wrote:
You are correct. Rosewood is a naturally oily wood with a waxy texture when it's well hydrated. The white stuff in the grain is the buffing compound used to polish the frets. Other than that, there is no finish on rosewood.


Well, my original question had nothing to do with "the white stuff in the grain". Rosewood fingerboards are now glossy. Yes, rosewood. Fender started doing this in 2009 or 2010.

To quote the current AmStd spec: "... rosewood fingerboard buffed to a high gloss."

What does Fender put on the rosewood to achieve this?


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Nothing I presume. I'd expect it to be just elbow grease to shine it up.

What guitar is it?

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nikininja wrote:
Nothing I presume. I'd expect it to be just elbow grease to shine it up.

What guitar is it?


to quote my previous post "AmStd".

Is this a write only discussion forum? :-)


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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:39 am
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Yeah I see what you mean

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It looks to me like they've run the fingerboard over the buffing wheel before fretting the neck. I cant see any unnatural shine to it though its obviously gleaming. I'd be very cautious of applying any kind of chemical to the board at all. The whole thing with rosewood is that its a untreated open grain wood. Other than keep lem oiling the board every year or so and play the thing I cant think what else to do.

If you want to post a picture of your guitar, you need to upload a picture to photobucket. Copy the code that is inbetween the [img]and[/img] codes and paste it into your post.

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:03 am
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[quote="nikininja"]Yeah I see what you mean

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That picture doesn't really show anything. You'd have to hold one.

Those fingerboards are not mirror gloss. But they are shinny.

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Post subject: gloss finish on rosewood...
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:37 pm
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I'd also suggest using 0000 or 00000 steel wool VERY LIGHTLY with the oil. just oiling over a buffed finish (if there's lacquer of any type) won't do much. Be very liberal with the oil on the steel wool and only go in the direction of the grain. Then wipe off the extra oil and buff it with a dry cloth.

That's my 2 cents lol 8)


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