The metal sleeve idea is interesting.

However, because 1) the claw only moves when the springs are slackened by raising the pitch, and 2) you've blocked the trem block so that the pitch cannot be raised, I conclude that you don't really need the metal sleeves!

I see how they could help reduce trem tuning instability when the trem freely floats.

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Johnny... no need to get nasty, I was just putting my two cents in, much like you. In your original post you said to put a piece of wood between the trem and the guitar body... naturally I assumed you meant in the body side, not in the neck side. A shim in the body side would effectively block the trem... now that you've explained it further, I understand what you meant. Personally, I would prefer if I'm dropping that much money on a guitar to have every component working perfectly out of the store, as you could save the volume pot or resale it once you've upgraded. That was my opinion... I am neither a tech nor a luthier. Certainly, if your system works more power to you. I would suggest being more clear with your original post, then perhaps all this animosity could've been avoided!! It is apparent, however, that you know what you're talking about. I was certainly not trying to insult your vast experience.

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Yeah by stopping the claw binding in the threads of the trem claw springs. In my experience that doesn't happen though. As the trem claw screws often enter at a angle slightly off square to the claw/spring line. If you have your trem flush against the body the angle is too little to matter. If you have those screws out though its visibly off square (on all my guitars)I offer you take the back plate off your guitar and view some preposterous trem action, really hammer a floating trem. Even If the claw moves the pressure exerted by the strings and springs forces it to return to position.

Even considering that I've a idea thats entirely sellable.

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orvilleowner:

Good observation, in theory ur right on. However, the claw somehow still move. The sleaves help stabilize the claw foundation.

Some claws in other strats won't move at all, even without the wooden shims. Go figure?

Believe me, we played with it over n over. But, for whatever reason, my deluxe claw would make high pitched noises with slight movements while experimenting with heavy tremolo use. The best result was to force stability with the metal sleaves.

Great reply, thxs.

Thank you, communication is everything, Rock on~!!

Having the claw bind in the threads of the screw would not be a good thing.



The problem with the sleeves is that they are not easily adjustable. Having just a nut or a even spring on the "other" side of the claw is much more adjustable (without having to take it all apart). Let's see if that's what Niki has in mind.

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(orvilleowner): Having the claw bind in the threads of the screw would not be a good thing.

(Johnny): Then don't use the sleaves, ur loss not mine.

(orvilleowner): The problem with the sleeves is that they are not easily adjustable. Having just a nut or a even spring on the "other" side of the claw is much more adjustable (without having to take it all apart).

(Johnny): My sleaves r right where I like em. The tension feels awesome n I get great vibrato which I love.

(orvilleowner): Let's see if that's what Niki has in mind.

(Johnny): This is my idea not Niki's.

Conclusion:

There's a lot of animosity between u two, probably because u 2 think u know it all.

Have fun tuning ur guitar while I spend my time wisely. Lol.

Oh yeah, go check out my thread because there is lot's of cool stratocaster tips & tricks n stuff. Also, plze read the intelligent replies. Very cool. http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... hp?t=33521

I think everyone is getting a little to personal. Your asking someone to do a bunch of modifications, add hardware that's not found at your local guitar store, and general confuse the heck out of a new player.

Want to stay in tune? Do this.

1) Have the strings stretched and properly.

2) Have innotation set properly

3) If you're not using tremolo, add a couple springs to the claw.

your done.

total spent? $10 (your guitar store should set it up and restring for free!)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vfUHCPOb8c

Here's a youtube video of me playing at a pre-2010 Super Bowl party.

Notice I'm using the crap out of the tremolo n the guitar stays in tune.

Hope u enjoy the clips n plzse leave a reply.

Not bad, could of left out the BMW and 7-11 stuff. This is all about the Strat. Not about baby Beamers and cramped apartments. Nice car though...

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