As I do realize nikininja as a respected member of our forum, he has not respected me or my proven methods of keeping a guitar in tune.

We r talking bout keeping the guitar in tune so the kid can play professionally. And I would like to see him reach his goal.

The thin block of wood (shim) i'm talking about only stops the trem from back movements. This is one of the major reasons strats go out of tune. To eliminate unnecessary bridge movement, a thin block can be wedged between the trem block n the body cavity with white clue. So yes, u can't do a backward tremolo bends which is a big plus anyway.

nikininja has no idea what I'm taking about when I say, "It's important to install metal sleaves to prevent claw screws from movement while in tremolo use". If he does, then have him prove it?

A cheap Tremolo Stabalizer installed will reinforce the block and the sleaves.

If the kid does what I say, he won't have to touch his tuning keys the whole gig. Also, he could break a string and the guitar will stay in tune. The kid could ride his low E or A string while bending n the bending note will stay in tune. Lastly, he can bend the crap out of his tremolo all night long without the deluxe going out of tune.

Does nikininja even play with a grease bucket system? If so he would know what I'm talking about.

Ok if $80 is not an option, then make sure ur dealer fixes ur volume problem. But u won't have the upgraded pro system either. I do agree with nikininja however, regarding the treble bleed though. U should install em either way, with or without grease bucket system.

But if u wish to be a professional assuming u play like one, I recommend using a GB system that will provide for an even sound when using ur volume so u can control near perfect dynamics. And i'm not talking about the tone knobs.

So plze don't listen to nikininja, he doesn't speak for me and so far I have proof he's not comprehending what I'm writing about.

If u like I'll show u step by step pic's of how to keep ur guitar in near perfect tune all night long even with heavy tremolo use.

Except for GBS n TB, u can purchase everything I said for under $30.

Now let's read nikininja's explanation how I'm wrong while my deluxe stays in near perfect tune all night long with heavy trem use.

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This guy must be high on something, pass it over! Nikininja is a great resource on this forum, and people who call him names should get a grip.

Who said anything about Metal Shims?

Wood not metal. Don't use metal, that would vibrate way too much.

And what's this delusional string to string crap? Who said anything about string pressure, per pound etc???

Let's make something clear, I'm not a luthier. I'm a playa. I'm sharing something I only wish I've known for yrs.

So if ur going to reply how wrong I am, at least get ur facts straight. Meanwhile I'll be playing my deluxe without having to tune.

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Ok let me show u what I'm taking about.



This is the metal sleave. However, this one happens to be brass.

Here's a pic with the brass sleave installed.



This will stop the claw from moving while in tremolo use.

If u wish to reset ur trem spring, u may do so by filing down or saw
off excess from the brass sleave. This height is near perfect for my playing style n I love the tension.

Also note, the wood between the block n body for stability. Also, there's a tremolo stabilizer bar inside the first spring just as an additive.

Note: My other strat has metal sleaves n they work the same.

Conclusion: I'm really not interested if I'm right or wrong. These things I do to my strats really work great and I'm loving how I don't have to waste time tuning. Hymn, kinda like I'm doing now>

Hope these pics help and I'm interested in helping any who is willing to listen.

Ok Johnny all animosity aside because I really don't seek to argue with anyone. I just don't like being repeatedly being called a idiot.

I'm no luthier, I'm a tinkerer at best who's handy with some files and a fretsaw.

So, I wont dismiss your idea out of hand. I can honestly see what your saying and why it may or does work. I can even think of a improvement that you could charge to perform.

I've tried a far worse idea from someone a lot of people treat as the bible of guitar repair.

How does that sound? When I've done it your more than welcome to email me. I'll try your way first and then see if my improvement works. I have access to some very good metal workers who love to indulge my ideas.

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I'm really having a hard time understanding exactly what ur saying. So here it goes, u see an improvement of my idea?

Ur going to first try the sleaves n then apply ur mystery improvement, then I get to email u to find out what it is?

If it's not broken, why fix it?

Hey look, I'm just sharing with the kid n others how to keep strats in tune so we can spend the time entertaining the ladies which is pretty much the only reason why I play in the first place. Wait a second, I'm lying, I started playing when I was seven. Ok, now I only play for the ladies/fellow guitarist.

Cheers.

Yeah absolutely. Its about playing the things.

What I'm saying is that though I don't necessarily agree with your theory behind your improvement/mod, I'll try it out. Based on your idea of how/why it works I can see an improvement that you may find marketable.

Johnny I have a knack for seeing things that some miss. I don't use this site to argue regrettably I suffer with quite a temper problem though. In the interests of peace I'm offering the open hand.

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I don't understand why johnny keeps bringing up the Grease Bucket in relation to the volume issue. Unless he has no idea what he is talking about.
AND if you really wanted to try it you can make one with a trip to Frys and some pocket change (not $85).
I'm sure he thinking of treble bleed/treble retention circuit, but that isn't the same thing at all.

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Thats not what its about mate. Please I'm trying to maintain a bit of order here.
Thanks though, I know what your getting at. Perhaps some people are confusing names but mean the right thing. It happens all the time and I do it incessantly.

No one should target such things hence my post removals.

Cheers mate.

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Yo yo yo, I'm in no way trying to market my idea. What's there to market? My intentions r pure n simple, nothing to gain. So far I've only been criticized. I truly feel the kids anguish. If u could count how many hours I've wasted tuning, it would be embarrassing. Damn, I'd be three years old. Do u know how many times I've been right in the middle of ur typical guitar solo in front of hot babes/fellow guitarist n my f'n guitar goes out? Wtf, that sucks dude. I don't wish this for anybody, especially an ambitious kid who wishes to step up to the next level. The kid asked for help n I happen to stumble upon his request which I highly respect.

And plze don't insult me by writing, "may work". That's just ridiculous. There's no reason for me to lie. If u do exactly what I say, ur guitar will stay in tune all night and u'll be loving it. This took me years to figure out n really it's quite simple.

Check out my thread, u may get a kick out of it. Comment n leave pics of ur stratocaster. http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33521

Right I'm not trying to insult you Johnny. I'm being incredibly open handed considering the way I was initially treated. As for luthier/played or playing pro, it matters little to me. I've done both, made vast improvements to low end intonation (which I'm still not entirely happy with and whilst all who ve tried it can testify to improvement, I don't offer the service commercially until I can guarantee its spot on). and have seven CDs currently on sale. I've played every Continent bar India and South America. No I'm not or have ever been in the forces and no I'm not here to brag. That's why I didn't mention those facts previously.

All I'm saying is, I'll give it a go. If it works I can see an improvement already without trying it and am offering it you for free. I want nothing out of it. I'm not saying I will share any findings publicly, I gave you the option to email me privately. Out of deference to you that still stands.

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The kid bought a guitar with volume issues. Yes, he should have fixed by the dealership.

What I'm saying since the volume doesn't work properly, why not take the opportunity n upgrade to the GBS. Because I use one n find it does make a difference.

If ur handy u may be able to do it cheaper, great. If not u can buy the whole system, which I prefer because I'm a playa not an electrician. http://cgi.ebay.com/Stratocaster-Strat-Grease-Bucket-Circuit-wiring-harness_W0QQitemZ250499181714QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item3a52ea2c92#ht_500wt_698

Plze don't insult me any further, I don't insult u. I'm merely sharing my experiences.