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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:08 pm
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It's a very handsome Strat indeed, and I would enjoy it just for that.

That pic of Gilmore looks less than authentic to me as well - DG lost a lot of weight it's true but I'd swear that head doesn't belong on that body! OMG, they faked Gilmore as well!

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It's a very handsome Strat indeed, and I would enjoy it just for that.

That pic of Gilmore looks less than authentic to me as well - DG lost a lot of weight it's true but I'd swear that head doesn't belong on that body! OMG, they faked Gilmore as well!

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Well, my impatience got the best of me, and since making this last post, I returned to the store and purchased it. Turns out they had an additional one in the back, on layaway for the past year, and it did not have a ding in the body. So I made the swap and wallked out with a mint one.

Mine did not come with a photo of Gilmour, however, it did come with the C.o.A., which I was happy about not having to go through hoops like the OP did just to receive it. Should I ever want to part ways with the guitar, the C.o.A should help prove its legitimacy...at least as a special run Fender Strat of which only 40 were made.

So...I'm officially a Fender owner now...red flags or not!


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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:16 am
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So...I think I've got some additional insights that may clear up some of the legitimate confusion about this guitar. After some correspondence with Fender's consumer relations, here's what I've learned:

1) There is no special wiring on this guitar whatsoever. Its 5 point switch operates/activates the exact same pickup combinations as a traditional Strat. While the retailer did not provide me documentation stating this (unlike the OP, who did have paperwork stating this), I suspect that after they were catching heat for the misrepresentation, they pulled all documentation from the remaining guitars before more were sold. However, the retailer was still communicating verbally that the 4th position activated a neck/bridge combo, instead of the neck/middle. This is untrue.

2) The only thing that differentiates this guitar from a typical AMSTD is the paint color and matching headstock. Other than that, it's identicial to all other AMSTDs. However, if you visit the specs listing on AMSTDs right here on Fender's site, they make no mention of Delta Tone. They do, however, mention a "no-load" something or other, which is also how the Delta Tone is described. Why Fender's site/specs wouldn't refer to it as Delta Tone, I have no idea. Perhaps they're different after all?

3) The MSRP on this model was $1,650.00. Slightly higher than the MSRP on regular AMSTD. This is simply because of the custom paint/headstock.


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Evan,

To my knowledge, the Willis location in Lexington still has one up for display and for sale. Is that the one you bought? If not, then there's still one more out there for grabs.

Personally, I didn't see anything terribly special about the guitar, having played one.

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Evan,

To my knowledge, the Willis location in Lexington still has one up for display and for sale. Is that the one you bought? If not, then there's still one more out there for grabs.

Personally, I didn't see anything terribly special about the guitar, having played one.


I don't think that it's so much special as it is unique. Not sure if you read through this entire thread, but there was a lot of confusion surrounding this guitar, and what exactly makes it unique besides its color.

I just thought it was a good AMSTD strat, for a good price, and I loved the color. I did not purchase the one in Lexington; mine was bought at an Ohio location. They had 2, and myself as well as another gentlemen, bought them both the same day according to the rep at the store. Kind of an interesting story behind that, but irrelevant...

In a nutshell, form the beginning of this thread until now, this guitar has gone from:

1) A Gilmour Strat, to
2) An unofficial Gilmour-esque Strat with unique wiring, to
3) Just an FSR Strat in Candy Tangerine and matching headstock

Phew...


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Post subject: Re: Seen the new david gilmour strat yet?
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:02 pm
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The Saga Continues...

Months later, in what should have occurred to me to try in the first place, I tested the pups by tapping the poles with a small screwdriver in each switch position.

Verdict: The guitar was indeed wired with a bridge/neck combo in the 4th position, and not the traditional middle/neck combo. Ahh, sweet peace of mind.

However, this doesn't answer the question of why Fender reported no unique wiring. To add further to the mystery, after a recent trip to the retailer I purchased this from, it was told to me that the documentation claiming the guitar was connected to DSotM/Gilmour was provided by Fender, NOT the retailer. Interesting. It was speculated that this documentation was provided by the retailer after manufacture, but this apparently was not the case.

Man, if I ever choose to sell this thing, I'll have a hard time convincing someone of all this.


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Post subject: Re: Seen the new david gilmour strat yet?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:14 pm
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EvanPC wrote:
To add further to the mystery, after a recent trip to the retailer I purchased this from, it was told to me that the documentation claiming the guitar was connected to DSotM/Gilmour was provided by Fender, NOT the retailer. Interesting. It was speculated that this documentation was provided by the retailer after manufacture, but this apparently was not the case.


Sorry but that´s BS, Fender would never call something a David Gilmour strat if it wasn´t because as previously stated they have spent allot of time and money trying to make Gilmour happy and if they did something like this it could jeopardize the relationship they have with Gilmour. The last thing Fender wants to do is jeopardize this relationship because fans see him playing his guitar and want fenders so that makes Fender money which is what they want.

My 2 cents is to not believe anything they tell you as they have proved to be liars saying it was a david gilmour and DSOTM wiring, so if it were me I would be very carefull when shopping at that location.

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:19 pm
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pink-floyd-fan wrote:
EvanPC wrote:
To add further to the mystery, after a recent trip to the retailer I purchased this from, it was told to me that the documentation claiming the guitar was connected to DSotM/Gilmour was provided by Fender, NOT the retailer. Interesting. It was speculated that this documentation was provided by the retailer after manufacture, but this apparently was not the case.


Sorry but that´s BS, Fender would never call something a David Gilmour strat if it wasn´t because as previously stated they have spent allot of time and money trying to make Gilmour happy and if they did something like this it could jeopardize the relationship they have with Gilmour. The last thing Fender wants to do is jeopardize this relationship because fans see him playing his guitar and want fenders so that makes Fender money which is what they want.

My 2 cents is to not believe anything they tell you as they have proved to be liars saying it was a david gilmour and DSOTM wiring, so if it were me I would be very carefull when shopping at that location.


The OP's subject line suggests that (Fender sold it as a signature), but I don't believe I said Fender or even the retailer referred to it specifically as a Gilmour signature strat. They did, however, provide "case candy" featuring photos of Gilmour, as well as verbiage suggesting a connection to DSotM. Touted more as Gilmour-esque. Not a Gilmour signature.

Now, the actual words sales reps chose to use is a different story. It's all documented in this thread, and I won't bother going over it again. Bottom line is, I don't know who to believe. The retailer says it's got custom wiring. Fender says it does not. Tested it myself, and it indeed does. If someone is being dishonest, or at least providing bad information in this scenario, it's both groups. The retailer and Fender. I'm not crying foul, but both have more explaining to do, if you ask me.

On the other hand, I'm happy with the guitar, and have been since I bought it. I just wanted a couple of questions answered. Now that I've confirmed the wiring config, I've got peace of mind and can just enjoy the guitar fully now, knowing exactly what I've got. It was an interesting situation to me, and clearly was to a number of others who've posted here. Just thought I'd share the additional information I've found out.


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Post subject: Re: Seen the new david gilmour strat yet?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:01 am
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Well, here's my 2 cents (which, adjusted for inflation and after income tax, is only worth about .93 of a penny...even less if you go up into Canada)...

That's a gorgeous guitar. Add the unique switching capabilities and the limited FSR of only 40 guitars (and a COA stating that it is "XX of 40"), everybody who bought one got a heck of a deal. If I had the money, I would seriously consider it.

I love all the "orange" finished--Fiesta Red, Candy Tangerine, that old Fender Toronado color, etc.; those hues excite my senses for some reason.

Anybody who thinks it isn't a good-looking axe is entitled to their (wrong) opinion. :P

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Post subject: Re: Seen the new david gilmour strat yet?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:59 am
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Yeah, that Candy Tangerine looks REALLY good, especially with the matching headstock.. A few years back, they offered that color on the Am Deluxe and I'm still regretting not picking one up back then...


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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
Well, here's my 2 cents (which, adjusted for inflation and after income tax, is only worth about .93 of a penny...even less if you go up into Canada)...

That's a gorgeous guitar. Add the unique switching capabilities and the limited FSR of only 40 guitars (and a COA stating that it is "XX of 40"), everybody who bought one got a heck of a deal. If I had the money, I would seriously consider it.

I love all the "orange" finished--Fiesta Red, Candy Tangerine, that old Fender Toronado color, etc.; those hues excite my senses for some reason.

Anybody who thinks it isn't a good-looking axe is entitled to their (wrong) opinion. :P


I agree, it´s a beautiful guitar and I would love to have it, those of you you have it play the heck out of it. :D

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Post subject: Re: Seen the new david gilmour strat yet?
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It's been a while since anyone posted, and I appreciate the digging EvanPC did on this to get down to the truth... which I'm sure hasn't fully been exposed or understood yet. A few years ago when these came out, Willis Music had represented these to be a Dark Side of the Moon specially wired Fender Stratocaster to myself and my parents. Turns out, lucky me, my parents ended up buying this guitar for me for Christmas which is still mint.

I am going to do some digging and make sure I have my COA, and I intend to come back and post some pictures of the guitar, COA, etc. If I find any new details or new documentation that may aid in clearing this up, I will be all over it to share with you all.


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