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Post subject: Schaller locking tuners on 2006 Highway One?
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:31 am
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Hi everyone,

I'm considering getting some Schaller/Fender locking tuners (the ones with the "F" on the back), and wanted to ask if anyone here has done this, and what their opinions were. I'm betting others have done it, of course, which is why I ask. :)

From what I've read (online) the tuners themselves should be a direct fit for a H1 headstock without any drilling involved, but I wanted to hear what people thought of the results. I think it'll be an improvement, but I guess I wanted some first-hand opinions before actually taking the plunge.

Many thanks in advance. :D


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Post subject: Re: Schaller locking tuners on 2006 Highway One?
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:33 am
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Simon M wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm considering getting some Schaller/Fender locking tuners (the ones with the "F" on the back), and wanted to ask if anyone here has done this, and what their opinions were. I'm betting others have done it, of course, which is why I ask. :)

From what I've read (online) the tuners themselves should be a direct fit for a H1 headstock without any drilling involved, but I wanted to hear what people thought of the results. I think it'll be an improvement, but I guess I wanted some first-hand opinions before actually taking the plunge.

Many thanks in advance. :D


I have put the same locking tuners on my Mexican Strat and they are great.

I say go for it!!!!.

I have found that they tune in quicker than standard tuners. Real good for when your playing live.


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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:30 am
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I happen to have 7 (!!??) Highway One Stratocaster HSS's and I have replaced ALL the crappy Ping tuners with Fender/Schallers and I tell you....it's the best darn move I ever made!!
They actually STAY in tune now!!
The F/S are a direct DROP IN replacement...no drilling /modification of ANY kind!!
Here's MY little tuning/restringing tip.

Once installed.......and you're changing strings......feed the string through the post.....an PULL!! Until you hear an actual note....then LOCK IT DOWN on the string!

Now you are 2 or 3 turns from standard pitch!

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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:44 am
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Many thanks for the replies - I'm going to do this! I'm glad to know that others have had such positive experiences, as well.

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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:58 pm
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Unless you're a heavy tremolo user, locking tuners are unnecessary. Most of the time, the strings are out of tune for three reasons:

1) Strings were not properly strung on the tuning pegs
2) Strings weren't streched or broken it prior to playing
3) Innotation is not right.

Most of the time, its the guitarist, not the tuners. I play a lot of bends and tremolo, very seldom to I need to adjust my tuning. If you're a drop D player, change your setup to a locking nut.... Just my opinion...

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Post subject: Always a Good Choice
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:22 pm
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I have the Schaller locking tuners on my American Deluxe and my Eric Johnson with a Deluxe neck and love them. Although I'm not a heavy tremolo user, they make changing strings in between songs much quicker. I play an SG part time and wish I had some locking tuners for it. Plus, they are aesthetically pleasing.


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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:09 am
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I would love to have them on every guitar I own. I love them they hold tuning better and make string changing a breeze.


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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:22 am
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DetroitBlues wrote:
Unless you're a heavy tremolo user, locking tuners are unnecessary. Most of the time, the strings are out of tune for three reasons:

1) Strings were not properly strung on the tuning pegs
2) Strings weren't streched or broken it prior to playing
3) Innotation is not right.



I appreciate this very much, mate. Thank you for being direct, and honest.

I'm really doing it for ease of string changing more than anything else. I don't use the tremolo that much, and my Strat stays in tune pretty well, but I want to take the tedium out of putting new strings on (a pet hate of mine, for some reason).

I'm lazy, and want an easy life, that's all! 8)


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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:14 pm
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DetroitBlues wrote:
Unless you're a heavy tremolo user, locking tuners are unnecessary. Most of the time, the strings are out of tune for three reasons:

1) Strings were not properly strung on the tuning pegs
2) Strings weren't streched or broken it prior to playing
3) Innotation is not right.

Most of the time, its the guitarist, not the tuners. I play a lot of bends and tremolo, very seldom to I need to adjust my tuning. If you're a drop D player, change your setup to a locking nut.... Just my opinion...


Here is one you did not mention:

1) The factory tuner that came on the guitar was a dud and needs to be changed.

I was havng trouble with my G string not staying in tune. Intonation was dead on. I know to stretch the strings and for the next day or so after tuning the strings need to stretch. I never wrapped more than 4 wraps around the tuning pegs. I checked the nut to ensure that it was properly cut. I lube the contact points and put graphite on the nut with each string change. My point being, sometimes it is the tuner itself that is the issue.

To the OP, I have a HWY 1 and the Fender/Schaller "F" tuners are a direct fit, they are on mine right now. They are awesome tuners. I have no issues with my tuning now (other than normal tweaks here and there occasionally). I could have bought a new set of Pings for my guitar, but if you are going to spend money on a part, get an awesome part, not just a decent part.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:27 am
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rkreisher wrote:
To the OP, I have a HWY 1 and the Fender/Schaller "F" tuners are a direct fit, they are on mine right now. They are awesome tuners. I have no issues with my tuning now (other than normal tweaks here and there occasionally). I could have bought a new set of Pings for my guitar, but if you are going to spend money on a part, get an awesome part, not just a decent part.

RK


Many thanks! I appreciate the response.

I ordered them today - got the chrome ones (not brushed) to match the rest of the fittings on the guitar. I'm looking forward to getting them!


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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:59 am
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rkreisher wrote:

To the OP, I have a HWY 1 and the Fender/Schaller "F" tuners are a direct fit, they are on mine right now. They are awesome tuners. I have no issues with my tuning now (other than normal tweaks here and there occasionally). I could have bought a new set of Pings for my guitar, but if you are going to spend money on a part, get an awesome part, not just a decent part.

RK


Hello I am a beginner too and I am a bit confused now. Isn't it so that the locking tuners have a wheel on the back and no "F", and de normal tuners have a "F".? About which ones are we speaking now?

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:49 am
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ShereKahn wrote:
rkreisher wrote:

To the OP, I have a HWY 1 and the Fender/Schaller "F" tuners are a direct fit, they are on mine right now. They are awesome tuners. I have no issues with my tuning now (other than normal tweaks here and there occasionally). I could have bought a new set of Pings for my guitar, but if you are going to spend money on a part, get an awesome part, not just a decent part.

RK


Hello I am a beginner too and I am a bit confused now. Isn't it so that the locking tuners have a wheel on the back and no "F", and de normal tuners have a "F".? About which ones are we speaking now?



If I'm not mistaken....I own both types........the "F" imprinted tuners are made in Indonesia or some country like that, while the (non "F" imprinted) brushed and chrome ones are indeed German made!

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:11 pm
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HW1 is correct - the "F" branded ones are, indeed, made in Germany. Mine are being ordered from the USA, via Fender Australia (as he's a Fender dealer; the guy I got my Highway 1 from last August). I don't know where the non-branded ones are from, though.


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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:24 pm
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Simon M wrote:
HW1 is correct - the "F" branded ones are, indeed, made in Germany.


No, nooo. The "F" branded ones ARE the ones made in Indonesia, (or where ever) the chrome (non"F" imprinted) and brushed ones ARE the ones made in Germany.

Check the Fender packaging they come in....there should be a little sticker telling you of it's country of manufacture.

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Do you find any difference between the two types?

What's the difference in price?

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