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Post subject: Thinking about trading off my last Floyd Rose Strat
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:32 pm
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I use to play almost exclusively Floyd Rose Strats after switch to a vintage tremolo Strat i have now gotten to were i don't care much for the Floyd Roses..Im thinking about trading my last MIM Floyd rose for this weirdo Dipinto Galaxie 4...I will try to post a link for you to check out let me know what you think..Imagehttp://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1544021757.html


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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:37 pm
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For some reason i can not get the link to work for the craigslist add that i'm thinking of trading with.. Okay worked that time

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1544021757.html


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I dont know CC my Friend that owns over 70 axes just picked one up and he is crazy about it. He bought it off a guy who came in his shop and had three and wanted to sell one. It has been his new toy for the last 4 months. They are not that easy to come by and just make sure you dont regret it. Besides being a pain in the $@! they are fun.


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How's it going Invader, do you still use the trem? Has your style changed? What's changed your mind?

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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:42 pm
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straycat113 wrote:
I dont know CC my Friend that owns over 70 axes just picked one up and he is crazy about it. He bought it off a guy who came in his shop and had three and wanted to sell one. It has been his new toy for the last 4 months. They are not that easy to come by and just make sure you dont regret it. Besides being a pain in the $@! they are fun.


The guy had 3 of these Dipinto's? As far as the Floyd Rose goes im getting rid of it regardless it is just a matter of this guitar or some other guitar or cash...


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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:51 pm
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How's it going Invader, do you still use the trem? Has your style changed? What's changed your mind?


Mostly i would say it was a style change i use to play in a Iron Maiden Trbute band for almost 7 years traveled all over the place with them.The i got a chance to audition with one of my favorite local/Traveling blues band about 2 years ago and won the job..
I started playing my 73 standard and Strat ultra with them ..Now it is hard for me to play the Floyd Roses my picking hand has a hard time finding a proper place to rest or mute ...I anchor my pinkie at a certain spot on all my guitars but on the Floyds i can't do it because of the position of the tremolo so i find myself floating my picking hand which cause picking mistakes..I think it's just a matter of i don't use them enough to be familiar with them anymore and i own 4 other strats ..

Plus i also like weird guitars..As far as this trade idea goes


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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:54 am
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There's nothing wrong with an original trem anyway, if you string your strat properly and use a little graphite on the nut they work just fine.
I never liked the Floyd Rose, a very fiddly hunk of dull sounding metal stuck to the face of a guitar that gives only a very small improvement. Over engineered and tone killing. Strictly for hairdresser metal bands with an 80s nostalgia kick.

I wrench the living daylights out of my US standard trem and my tuning is pretty stable, no complaints, so I never saw the need to install the starship enterprise on my strat.

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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:02 am
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ive been looking at floyd rose strats, they seem very tempting to purchase but with the floyd also comes the problems. im GASing for a strat and kinda want a floyd rose, but i have a ibanez sitting over in sweden with a floyd rose so dont need another floyd rose guitar, its just the fact i want to play something with one.
but i dont believe the extra £100 or so is worth spending for the floyd rose so will end up getting a 70's reissue or a MIM standard.


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Post subject: Re: Thinking about trading off my last Floyd Rose Strat
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:08 am
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Invader.CC wrote:
I use to play almost exclusively Floyd Rose Strats after switch to a vintage tremolo Strat i have now gotten to were i don't care much for the Floyd Roses..Im thinking about trading my last MIM Floyd rose for this weirdo Dipinto Galaxie 4...I will try to post a link for you to check out let me know what you think..Imagehttp://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1544021757.html


Nice strat Invader- I had one of these with a rosewood board, I am guessing early to mid nineties? noting the single tone control :)

Hard to find this particular model. Good to see you changed out the bucker- man I remember that OEM pick-up was nasty! :lol:

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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:32 am
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Yours is a common sentiment among those who can't, or won't take the time to learn how to set a Floyd up properly: hate the unknown.


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There's nothing wrong with an original trem anyway, if you string your strat properly and use a little graphite on the nut they work just fine.
I never liked the Floyd Rose, a very fiddly hunk of dull sounding metal stuck to the face of a guitar that gives only a very small improvement. Over engineered and tone killing. Strictly for hairdresser metal bands with an 80s nostalgia kick.

I wrench the living daylights out of my US standard trem and my tuning is pretty stable, no complaints, so I never saw the need to install the starship enterprise on my strat.

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nickbeatnik wrote:
Strictly for hairdresser metal bands with an 80s nostalgia kick.


Or Joe Satriani, Dimebag Darrell, John Petrucci, Kirk Hammett, Eddie Van Halen, etc.

Some of the things you can do with a FR and stay in tune completely you really can't do with a synchronized tremolo (only 30 years playing experience here so disregard my noobieness). Yeah, you can string it correctly and do some vibrato work - heck, even Yngwie does pretty well - but you can't divebomb to slack strings twenty times and expect it to still be in tune. I've tried it many times and it doesn't work on a synchronized tremolo - and I know how to set it up, lock the strings in the tuner (heck, my American Deluxe has locking tuners), and even the graphite lubrication at the nut and/or saddles.


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Joelski wrote:
Yours is a common sentiment among those who can't, or won't take the time to learn how to set a Floyd up properly: hate the unknown.


Joelski and Kuroyume - I'm not hating on the Floyd, I believe I said I never liked them. And they're not that hard to set up properly, I've spent some time with one on a friend's guitar and used it on a few different occasions and had it operating just fine. But yeah, my style doesn't involve twenty divebombs to completely slack strings so I never felt the need for that complex a trem system when the original one does everything I want - include a lesser number of divebombs. :wink:

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a very fiddly hunk of dull sounding metal stuck to the face of a guitar that gives only a very small improvement. Over engineered and tone killing.

I never saw the need to install the starship enterprise on my strat.


My experience with a Floyd is that its not such a tone killer at all.. I used to have mine set flat for divebombing only. This did set a different tone over having it float. I also found it a little more comfortable on the picking hand if I had to rest it for muting.

Actually, one couldn't really tell the difference. If any, because of the higher mass at the bridge, it sounded a tad brighter. The thing I dont like (and aside from tuning stability) are the sharp edges on the saddle height adjust screws on vintage style trems. :P

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nickbeatnik wrote:
Joelski and Kuroyume - I'm not hating on the Floyd, I believe I said I never liked them. And they're not that hard to set up properly, I've spent some time with one on a friend's guitar and used it on a few different occasions and had it operating just fine. But yeah, my style doesn't involve twenty divebombs to completely slack strings so I never felt the need for that complex a trem system when the original one does everything I want - include a lesser number of divebombs. :wink:


Some of us do play stuff that does involve that. :) I usually play this type of style on one of my Ibanez guitars or Wolfgang for that reason. I have two Strats as well but I'd kill for the OP's Strat. It is exactly what I've been seeking - an American Stratocaster w/FR, maple fretboard (though it is not possible to tell if that is MIA from the photo). I wish he wasn't in St. Louis and on craigslist because, well, I can't travel there to play and pay personally.

Currently, the only available option new is an MIM with only rosewood fretboard. And I was hoping for white. I know, I'm so easily pleased. :oops:


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I've never played one of the DiPinto axes, but I like their image--they look cool and funky to me, like an old Danelectro or Teisco Del Rey.

I'm not a big fan of tremolos at all (much less a Floyd Rose or Kahler!). I even blocked the trem on my MIA '62RI Strat--but, with the way that weird trends in music/musical instruments go, it might be a good idea to hold on to your little "White Elephant with a Floyd Rose"...Who knows? The Strat you're disdaining now might eventually become a popular model again...and you'll be kicking yourself for letting "that one" get away.

Just a few years ago, nobody (and I mean NOBODY!) would have looked at or bought a Strat with the big late 60's/early 70's headstock...now Fender is re-issuing them, and the originals are gaining acceptance & value in collector's circles.

If you don't need the money and have other guitars to play, you might just store this one...and cash in later!

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