Hello all

I am hoping the Collective can answer my question. I am a long time lurker and relatively new poster.

I have my first(of many hopefully!) nitro finished Strat. I also have several On-Stage Stands. One of them has a model number of GST 7. I could not find this model on the On-Stage website. I tried calling their phone number Friday but unfortunately they were closed for the day. I am going to try calling again on Monday but was hoping to get an answer here.

If they are not, should I wrap the arms in cotton cloth as has been mentioned previously?


Thanks in advance,
Chris

I looked all over the internet and asked this question 18months ago and couldnt get an answer I could understand (how the hell am I meant to tell what kind of rubber is what). So I just cut some old Tshirts up and wrapped them around it. Far cheaper than buying another stand, and a lot less trouble.

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No no and no

my firm belief is that anything that comes in contact with the finish (even silk panties) repeatedly will eventually cause a "disturbance" in the finish, first at a microscopic level then eventually visible to the human eye try looking at your guitar through a high powered macro lens you'll see what I mean.

(i.e. its unavoidable if your gonna play the thing and not hang it in a glass case)

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my friend uses old thick socks and cuts to fit.

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The Hercules GS-200 stand is nitro friendly.

EDIT: The GS-200 is made by Ultimate Support not Hercules. Sorry for any confusion this has caused.

Doug -

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Thanks for the responses.

I agree with that!

I think I will get my sister to sew me some sleeves to put over the arms to try to delay the damage to the finish. I will call On-Stage on Monday to ask them about the stand and what rubber is good and what rubber is bad and post their answer.

Thanks again
Chris

I would do something like Niki does so you make sure you are safe.

Assume that every one is suspect and make them all a set of gloves.

I've had 2 gtrs marked by stands that weren't cheap..

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Ah, this is very true. I always find that silk panties cause a disturbance to my finish.

Oh, and seriously:

This is true - so long as you haven't got an American Reissue type Fender with the neck finished in nitro. In that case the rubber on the neck grip mechanism can also cause discoloration at that point. And of course on the GS-200 the rubber on the rests fixed to the legs comes in contact with the guitar body too.

On the Hercules GS-412B there is a sort of arm that sticks out and supports the back of the guitar. So long as you have that placed against the plastic spring cover it'll be fine (accepting the bit above about nitro finished necks).

Flippin' complicated, ain't it? How can there not be a manufactured solution to this yet?

Cheers - C

Ceri,

I own a GS-200 & had the same concern you do regarding the "rubber" on the neck grip. According to Ultimate the material is called Santoprene and it is nitro friendly. The legs that the guitar rests on are not rubber - it's described as "case quality material". It looks like velvet & is nitro friendly as well.

http://www.ultimatesupport.com/product/GS-200

Doug -

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Ha - is that right? Then I stand rightfully corrected - thank you!

And since I have several Hercules stands I now know that I can risk leaving my nitro finished Strat on one of them for a bit longer. I'll give it a try...

Cheers - C

Ceri,

Sorry but I screwed up! I originally described the GS-200 stand as a Hercules product when in reality it is made by Ultimate Support. So your Hercues stand may not be nitro friendly after all. Abject apologies for the confusion.

Doug -

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You're not the only one: I Googled the model numbers and found the GS-200 on the same page as several Hercules stands - so confusion reigns supreme on every side!

Let's all just carry on putting socks on our guitar stands and be done with it! At least until someone comes up with a rubber that definitely doesn't conflict with nitro.

Or till someone invents a guitar finish that doesn't react to rubber. Hey now, that's a thought...

Cheers - C

If the stand has foam pads, they'll stick to the finish and stain it. If you have a black finish or dark burst finish, you'll never notice. I cover all of my guitar stand with old cleaning cloths. Works best for me.

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I called On-Stage(The Music People) and asked if their guitar stands are nitro friendly. Here is their official reply.

Dear Customer:
The Music People has been using a velveteen rubber on our guitar stands for over 20 years. We have tested it and found it to be as harmless as possible for guitar finishes. We periodically test the rubber to try to avoid any chemical variance by the factory. Fender, the largest guitar manufacturer in the world, has trusted our stands to package and sell with their guitars. The Music People believes that the stands are the best and safest in the industry. Due to the very large amount of guitar manufacturers and even larger amount of models and variations we feel it’s prohibitively expensive to test each and every guitar and guitar finish with our stands. We cannot claim that our stand will be absolutely safe with every finish, but we do feel very confident that is the safest choice on the market.
Sincerely,
James Hennessey
President

It sounds as if it should be safe for nitro finishes, but it also sounds as if it should be "caveat emptor" if you use one! It is probably good advice to make a cotton/flannel sleeve to fit over the arms just to be on the safe side. And if Fender trusts them they must be good, right?

Also, I sure hope they did not hurt any widdle velveteen wabbits making the velveteen wubber!

Chris