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I've an understanding with my wife that, when we go to Italy, I get walkaround time of at least 3 days in that area, Sicily, the Lipari Islands (Stromboli and Vulcano), Santorini Island... etc

Good grief, Doc; I had no idea of this pyroclastic tendancy in you. You're full of surprises.

So happens I'm in Sicily in a couple of weeks, staying a (pumice) stone's throw from Etna. I'll pop up on top and let you know how she's cooking. Forum T-shirt photo in a volcano crater, perhaps? More Hot Rocks and Fazed Cookies...Cheers - C


Hell hath no fury like a volcano at full tilt boogie. When I was on Martinique a while back I threw down the gauntlet and made it clear that I was going to St.Pierre and Mont Pelee even if the ship sailed without me. I've several books on that event in my library but nothing speaks for having been there. Same said for Hawaii. Same with Irazu in Costa Rica. Sometimes you only get one shot at the brass ring. I was real pyroclastic flow in my yute, but those tales remained untold, and in my memory alone. :oops: Been to St.Helens four times. Such destruction boggles the mind. I can't imagine how it must have been in the first thirty seconds of that igneous holocaust, David Johnston screaming his last words into the radio to Portland as the clouds bore down on him, and Harry Truman, now entombed 900 below, ultimately betrayed by his beloved mountain, encompassing his doom.

Enjoy Etna. My 84 yo father-in-law was up there a couple of years ago. Why not yourself.

Volcanoes?? Without them, human kind would not exist.

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Volcanoes eh? this could turn very interesting. Years ago, my father had a beach bouse at waihau bay on the East Cape of the North Island which I remember as a kid being mesmerised by White Island spewing it's acid gasses out. Although the latest shows very little activity:
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However, being the Auckland basin is entirly made from volcanic activity- it is a part of our city- there are 49 volcanoes that have made up Auckland in total. Everywhere you go in NZ- you can see the landscape made up of activity... it's just insane.
My local- Mt Eden:
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One Tree Hill:
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Mt Albert, Waitakere Ranges
ImageRangitoto Island- Auckland's most recent volcanoe formed 600 years ago- you can also see North Head which is another cone:
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Lake Taupo- this was once the site of one of the worlds most violent eruptions 1,800yrs ago in the last 5000yrs and is now a caldera. It turned the skies in China red:
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Mt Ruapehu:

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Mt Ngaruhoe:

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I took these pics while heading down to Palmerston North to pick up my ultra- that was a very nice day indeed :)


Seriously- I could create a monster of a thread about the NZ volcanic activity- it has sculpted our rugged landscape very beautifully from the top of the North Island to the bottom of the South Island.

If you would like to find out more:

http://www.geonet.org.nz/volcano/index.html

May be of interest to ZZdoc

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Those pictures are unreal, Blertles. :D

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Stunning scenery in that part of the world Blerties, never been, though one day I hope too, sister in laws husband stationed in Waiouru for some time, any time on the phone you'ld get " Ooh, oh it's ok just another rumble", nice pics 8)


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Waioru is a millitary camp town, right at the base of Mt Ngaruhoe, Tongariro and Ruapehu- there is a military museum housing some VC's that were since stolen and recovered. Avery beautiful part of the country indeed. There are also wild horses in that area too :)

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This one happened in 96

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I remember seeing it from this location- 2 hrs away. You cannot see clearly in this photo- but in the middle of the two hills in the background, there is a view of the mountain from there

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or maybe I should finish it and then go chuck it in a lava flow as the ULTIMATE Hendrix sacrifice. Ashes to ashes.

That would mean a trek to Mount Nikininja from whence it was forged. 8)
Are you up to the task Ceri Baggins :?:

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[Volcanoes eh? this could turn very interesting. Years ago, my father had a beach bouse at waihau bay on the East Cape of the North Island which I remember as a kid being mesmerised by White Island spewing it's acid gasses out.

Awesome. I first read on that area of your world better than 60 years ago when my curiosity was first piqued. And I had to settle for boring old Rockaway Beach in Queens, while you had White Island which would have likedly had me mesmerised as well. Is it true that it is privately owned? Imagine, owning a volcanic island. :shock:

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Well this forum has taken a explosive twist. From a Burnocaster to volcanology! Ya the thread is a Strat rebuild and Discover Network all in one!! Blertles, your picts of Kiwiland bring back a lot of fun memories!

Well ZZDOC I had no idea you were interested in Vanuatu. The island we have our base on is Gaua and it is a very active volcano. In fact when we were there in Nov it was at a level II warning. Level III they evacuate. Level IV the island blows up! Anyhow that was the joke. Check out these picts taken from our small plane:
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Our clinic is right at the base of this volcano. This one has the possibility of hydro-fusion due a very active volcano right in the middle of a lake on top of the the mountain. This is a very small island and if she blows it will most likely take out the whole island and some of the surrounding islands. Here is a closer view as we circled around after takeoff:
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Here I am sitting in our little Maule aircraft. We have the doors off for shooting video and for doing an air drop on a nearby island.
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Mike our camera man shooting out the door of the plane:
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Here are some of the locals. Hey this really is the Fender Discovery Channel!
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We are looking forward to your picts Ceri! Also that brief moment when you get to play again! :lol:

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[Volcanoes eh? this could turn very interesting. Years ago, my father had a beach bouse at waihau bay on the East Cape of the North Island which I remember as a kid being mesmerised by White Island spewing it's acid gasses out.

Awesome. I first read on that area of your world better than 60 years ago when my curiosity was first piqued. And I had to settle for boring old Rockaway Beach in Queens, while you had White Island which would have likedly had me mesmerised as well. Is it true that it is privately owned? Imagine, owning a volcanic island. :shock:


"Whakaari is privately owned and was declared a private scenic reserve in 1953 and is subject to the provision of the Reserves Act 1977. Visitors cannot land without permission or remove or disturb any wildlife and must leave only their footprints. However, it is easily accessible by authorised tourist operators. Weather permitting, a luxury motor launch leaves Whakatane daily for a six-hour day trip. Helicopter and aeroplane trips are also available from Rotorua, Tauranga and Whakatane"

I copied that from wiki- I didnt know it was to be honest. Although besides scientific research and as a national reserve- what value is there on a inhabitable Island i wonder...

this is an interesting story too-

Attempts were made in the mid 1880s, 1898-1901 and 1913-1914 to mine sulphur from Whakaari but the last of these came to a halt in September 1914, when part of the western crater rim collapsed, creating a lahar which killed all 10 workers.[2] They disappeared without trace, and only a camp cat survived. He was found some days afterwards by the resupply ship, and dubbed "Peter the Great". He was taken back safely to the mainland, and went on to father many a kitten[3][4] Some years later in 1923 mining was again attempted, but learning from the 1914 disaster, the miners built their huts on a flat part of the island near a gannet colony. Each day they would lower their boat into the sea from a gantry, and row around to the mining factory wharf in Crater Bay. If the sea was rough they had to clamber around the rocks on a very narrow track on the crater’s edge. Before the days of antibiotics, sulphur was used in medicines as an antibacterial agent, in the making of match heads, and for sterilising wine corks. The miner’s diggings were handled in small rail trucks to the crushing and bagging process in the factory built on the island. Unfortunately, there was not enough sulphur at Whakaari and so the ground up rock was used as a component of agricultural fertiliser. Eventually the mining ended in the 1930s because of the poor mineral content in the fertiliser. The remains of the buildings can still be seen, much corroded by the sulphuric gases.

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Now thats some nice volcanoe work Xhefri :)

With the Chile earthquake, we were put on Tsunami alert and behold we experienced a 15meter receding of water at high tide along the east coast. There was no damage at all, at most there was a swell of 40cm and it was spectacular for the locals to see. Tsunami warnings and alarms are actually top notch :)

One thing that does worry me a little is with all the earthquakes happening in suck strange places in the Pacific area, I think it will be a matter of time before we have one. The tension in the pacific and the australian plate has put the Wellington area at concern for a high magnatude quake within the next 50 years. That may seem a while, but in reality its actually quite alarming.

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[quote"Whakaari is privately owned and was declared a private scenic reserve in 1953 and is subject to the provision of the Reserves Act 1977. Attempts were made in the mid 1880s, 1898-1901 and 1913-1914 to mine sulphur from Whakaari but the last of these came to a halt in September 1914, when part of the western crater rim collapsed, creating a lahar which killed all 10 workers

You corroborate what I had thought about the island. That event of 1914 must have been what created that truncated cone with that one side open to the sea, like St. Helens whose north face is gone. I have a book in my library which has a frontispiece...an aerial view of a volcanic island, unidentified in the book, which I am sure is Whakaari, a name which I have just first learned, and prefer.

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[Volcanoes eh? this could turn very interesting. Years ago, my father had a beach bouse at waihau bay on the East Cape of the North Island which I remember as a kid being mesmerised by White Island spewing it's acid gasses out.

Awesome. I first read on that area of your world better than 60 years ago when my curiosity was first piqued. And I had to settle for boring old Rockaway Beach in Queens, while you had White Island which would have likedly had me mesmerised as well. Is it true that it is privately owned? Imagine, owning a volcanic island. :shock:


Doc if you haven't seen Woody Allen's Radio Days lately, now would be a good time :lol:
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Well ZZDOC I had no idea you were interested in Vanuatu. The island we have our base on is Gaua and it is a very active volcano.

I know of Gaua. I've read on it elsewhere. A most definitedly not nice mountain. :wink:

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Don't get me started on Iceland. 8)


I spent several years in the 80's in the Public Works operation on the navy base in Keflavik. Beautiful, interesting place.

Our entire heating system for the base was geothermal. Very interesting operations.

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Don't get me started on Iceland. 8)
I spent several years in the 80's in the Public Works operation on the navy base in Keflavik. Beautiful, interesting place.

Holy Jules Verne...Batman!! Roger that for sure. Iceland sits on the mid-oceanic ridge, where new land is being formed. There's a location on that island where you can stand astride a fissure in the ground and be standing astride two continental plates.

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Well ZZDOC I had no idea you were interested in Vanuatu. The island we have our base on is Gaua and it is a very active volcano. In fact when we were there in Nov it was at a level II warning. Level III they evacuate. Level IV the island blows up! Anyhow that was the joke. Check out these picts taken from our small plane:
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The location of that body of water suggests some interesting hydrology. I wouldn't be surprised if the ground water there isn't interacting with the magma chamber in some fashion, to give that system it's particularly nasty characteristics. If that's a lake, I would also be concerned about either carbon dioxide or sulfur dioxide effects. Of equal interest are the rifts in the side of the cone. I see that entire side blowing out ala St Helens in Washington State, or Santa Maria in Central America.

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